From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBC-34PzBBoEnfwGOA@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 02 08:01:29 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzVFG-0000nx-Bm; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:28 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf2437883gxk.16 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hCC7gxwaTUv7KYK2fWhVm+FU//efFkPm5SCHwMePKdw=; b=VvY29Vg4LPlBO/AXFrqYJR4rpBYkGY00MU3YeAao3JPlx/JLIYxpS1+oSPxkQOMpf1 CIqWteYHiU9k7Ej7QF/Z9JePKoRkmOTrCXvZMLZvyYDzX58iwSuDt0I/JUqBtOf72fDr Lcdvz4F7GinzEL9InRwT5S8E+hjkzAORCZzJs= Received: by 10.101.138.13 with SMTP id q13mr133090ann.22.1314975678819; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.189.5 with SMTP id r5ls3426351anp.6.gmail; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.19.14 with SMTP id 14mr1124401ans.31.1314975678218; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.19.14 with SMTP id 14mr1124400ans.31.1314975678194; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com (mail-gy0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q30si5924ybn.2.2011.09.02.08.01.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.175; Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2118477gyg.20 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.9.106 with SMTP id 70mr5920865yhs.105.1314975678078; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.109.163 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110902145107.GA19571@gonzales> References: <20110902145107.GA19571@gonzales> From: Luke Bergen Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] paradox To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3036387b2e1f3b04abf6a266 --20cf3036387b2e1f3b04abf6a266 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ouch, my brain. Let me see if I can pull this back to english. "is it true that is a property of itself" (angle-brackets added for clarity)..... that doesn't help, my brain still hurts. It's a lot more of a brain teaser than "this sentence is a lie", that's for sure. I like. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Martin Bays wrote: > Cute Russel for properties, which translates nicely to lojban: > > xu lo ka ce'u ce'u na ckaji ku vo'a ckaji > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf3036387b2e1f3b04abf6a266 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ouch, my brain.

Let me see if I can pull this back to en= glish. =A0"is it true that <the property of a thing not having itse= lf as a property> is a property of itself" (angle-brackets added fo= r clarity).....

that doesn't help, my brain still hurts. =A0It'= s a lot more of a brain teaser than "this sentence is a lie", tha= t's for sure. =A0I like.

On Fri, Sep = 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
Cute Russel for properties, which translate= s nicely to lojban:

xu lo ka ce'u ce'u na ckaji ku vo'a ckaji

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