From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhCtzLDzBBoE5VXUEQ@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 10 20:08:40 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2aPN-0006K4-9S; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:39 -0700 Received: by gya6 with SMTP id 6sf2708374gya.16 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7TaT45oVB8aUobn/FeM2Aiagt/hysg8anRheqPpTTVg=; b=TRmJw1sW+10Z2mbz42E7KXtbNhATfY8FDPz4DGNXjn8K0Qae0X+RP/Slu6u4QTu+1v WNtsaDay6d7Hlyki9HEUYHoVWk4EvR+CRZPI8zBx08fpqx/0IONB8mKDWBjbLpRX9iF9 KAATfnfjdhy0cbAcnjWXbCET3/kR1DlDZDik8= Received: by 10.101.166.15 with SMTP id t15mr523591ano.1.1315710509267; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.204.19 with SMTP id g19ls13633167anq.5.gmail; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.73.11 with SMTP id a11mr2737582anl.37.1315710508620; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.73.11 with SMTP id a11mr2737581anl.37.1315710508602; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f173.google.com (mail-yx0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g7si5546493ane.1.2011.09.10.20.08.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.173; Received: by yxl11 with SMTP id 11so1983051yxl.32 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.93.11 with SMTP id v11mr3129062ybl.334.1315710508312; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.98.19 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:07:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:07:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Next thursday To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > One thing I frequently have trouble with in english is being unsure what > someone means when they "next monday".=A0 Is it the next monday to occurr= or > the one following.=A0 I haven't found anything in jbovlaste for this, so = how > do you all say these things in lojban doi jbocecmu? Well, I can tell you that I just wrote these song lyrics yesterday: tu'e bavlamfamyma'odei bavlamfamyma'odei bavlamfamyma'odei klama do .i penmi ne'a lo sailce .i penmi ne'a lo sailce .i penmi ne'a lo sailce se ka'a do tu'u And I thought to myself that putting three {bavlamfamyma'odei}s in a tanru like that would seem to mean to me three Tuesdays from now-- the following Tuesday associated with (after) the following Tuesday associated with (after) next Tuesday. But it's a tanru so that's not all it could mean. I think that probably {bavlamfamyma'odei} always implies the next Tuesday that's going to happen on the calendar, even if that's tomorrow and it's strange that you called it {bavlamfamyma'odei} when you could have just said {bavlamdei}. Anyway the only possible confusion is in tendencies and implications, there should certainly be places in the structures for what week an adjacent week is adjacent to, right? ni'o pau nai mu'i ma mi glisku .i do jboka'e .i .ai .au zo'o zo'o nai ru'e jungau lo nintadni ba lo nu lojbo jdice ni'o .ia le bavlamnondei cu du le bavlamdei .i .au lo jbovla cu zasti gi'e se smuni lo du'u balvi lo djedi be li bi .i .ia plixau .i drata glico bo smuni fi'o casnu do .i ra'o .biv. co'e .e'u ru'e ni'o mi zgana lo nu la .pier. ji'a casnu .i .ia la .pier. cu cinri je racli je se tugni xusra mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.