From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhDWu7PzBBoEgtVqYg@googlegroups.com Sun Sep 11 09:12:17 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f57.google.com ([74.125.83.57]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2mdh-0005ga-Ik; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:17 -0700 Received: by gwj18 with SMTP id 18sf3408536gwj.2 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ybwnkJAIvn6L86xUhOKK7ip4fcYxNb0pZ/8HdeR/zI8=; b=DGmmLKZB982lZWmlWb36Je+XvpRJRK7g/9Cui1tIZ9qMlKB+zZYtpFtewiTRCLLTf+ HpFJC2XMWMkeTCPc6+G4hRKS8DZBfX8lrYBa/l5MamN9/yYf8TT7VHsV4enr/SGFCZ7k TqtK593aitamaKyLqN9AHCO2+bMeSTzKADA1o= Received: by 10.236.125.161 with SMTP id z21mr2449187yhh.3.1315757526017; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.181.40 with SMTP id i40ls14816740anp.0.gmail; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.82.1 with SMTP id f1mr3236622anb.13.1315757525313; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.82.1 with SMTP id f1mr3236621anb.13.1315757525299; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f180.google.com (mail-gx0-f180.google.com [209.85.161.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v10si6953021anq.2.2011.09.11.09.12.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.180; Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so3239852gxk.25 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.93.11 with SMTP id v11mr3393734ybl.334.1315757525149; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.98.19 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:11:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E6BD617.5070703@lojban.org> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I would use a cmene in that scenario. Also, I should probably mention that I > endorse .xorxes.'(?) proposal to treat cmene as normal brivla (i.e. allow > them to be used as selbri.) I personally believe that that simple addition > to their functionality would be more than enough to cause fu'ivla to be > completely deprecated. .ue sai .ie .ie nai .i .ue .ua do nelci le fu'ivla je zi'evla ba'e tarmi na .e lo ku'i fukpi valsi poi ba'e cmevla tarmi .i mi na'e jimpe ca lo nu do xusra lo du'u fu'ivla xebni .i do .e xy. ti'e stidi lo nu mutce zenba fu'ivla te valsi fa la .lojban. kei .ue ru'e .i lo cmevla fu'ivla cu da'i mutce zmadu frili se finti .i za'a lo za'i lo nu finti lo fu'ivla cu nandu cu rinka lo nu so'u fu'ivla cu selfi'i kei noi ka'u so'o jbopre cu mutce lo ka djica .i na nabmi mi .i mi nelci ro jbovla .i mi fu'ivla pilno gi'a lujvo pilno vi'o .i da'i lo fu'ivla vlipa cmevla cu jai se curmi ka'u .i ki'u da'i la'e di'u mi fu'ivla cmevla pilno vi'o .i ku'i se'o so'i da cu cizra nu darlu mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.