From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCa58nzBBoE0zZ_uA@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 15 14:52:36 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R4JrG-0003Oy-GB; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:36 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf974831fxg.16 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/i+OwaRUXnWTDVYhIVYGwREuiqoPvydVWjbOd803QqE=; b=vmgLEqCuQDzm6HPJ8kDDhHR/jeOhWufyKxlLKZsd+SLblA1j4Ih+pwnBczEzI6In+C 0c8sh4Zd8y8MnVgWNHvCXgW3BpkAEsTlgkA6hJjWscwI3U69k3jxig9QnuPpDhJF0eHF kfiVyda23FrAo8GzmKRZ0ECAG7juIFUuQitfo= Received: by 10.223.22.208 with SMTP id o16mr566246fab.29.1316123546149; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.148.193 with SMTP id q1ls1403205bkv.3.gmail; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.18 with SMTP id m18mr386565bks.11.1316123544923; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.18 with SMTP id m18mr386564bks.11.1316123544906; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si2411849fak.1.2011.09.15.14.52.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.41; Received: by fxh17 with SMTP id 17so1466321fxh.14 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.64.66 with SMTP id d2mr96974fai.116.1316123544756; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.23.233 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7009309.986.1316100824818.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnx17> References: <7009309.986.1316100824818.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnx17> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:52:24 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] re'o vs ne'a From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:33 PM, djandus wrote: > doi xorxes > What would that mean, exactly? That is: > > mi mo'i ne'a tu klama > mi klama tu > are those equivalent? "klama tu" says that "tu" is my destination, but I may be going there in a roundabout way so that that is not the direction in which I'm going. "mo'i ne'a tu" says that there is movement towards a place near "tu". > The other FAhA3 make a lot of sense to me as > directions (mostly because their definitions include one, like "into" or > "passing through") but I wonder about some... do all FAhA3 have the > direction of "towards [sumti]", with distintions between "passing through", > "contacting", "edging up to", and "into"? And if so, then what do {ne'a} and > {bu'u} mean as directions? "mo'i bu'u ko'a" indicates there's movement towards the place where "ko'a" is. I don't think "mo'i" is much use. We already have "fa'a" to indicate direction, and movement is usually indicated by the selbri. It's very rare that you need to add the idea of movement to a selbri that doesn't already have it. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.