From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCwroXzBBoETA0wDA@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 02 15:22:51 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qzc8O-0007OH-GQ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:50 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf1820079vwe.16 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LR69AKqtfD1S0QP/M9m/X4urj3pBPMWVUhmOcNtv+qU=; b=1Ih5F6Plbzmavs3vSMtkGVx/sXN/1ycaAl47EC6PQOG/Tb9bo1jaVooXMnTjjrYCwh 7fwpNOdXRoynCuHoyp0CoBYyhUKxDycgfn9Wj6qQfN13gehBLo3zpKUgVprU97iJw05Y BhXTi5QN54kQyteXYHkzk7uMdxeAMKBIdBO94= Received: by 10.220.193.72 with SMTP id dt8mr308389vcb.25.1315002160689; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.169.193 with SMTP id ag1ls1917174vdc.2.gmail; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.200 with SMTP id du8mr651326vdb.13.1315002154915; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.200 with SMTP id du8mr651325vdb.13.1315002154908; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh5si196938vdc.3.2011.09.02.15.22.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.44; Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so2504984vws.3 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.138 with SMTP id m10mr1563927vdf.184.1315002154818; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.163.133 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 19:22:34 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: assignment affected by context From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > But {lo djacu} necessarily becomes {lo se pinxe}, then. OK, fair enough. How necessarily? "pimu lo djacu goi ko'a" would be equivalent to "pimu ko'a goi lo djacu", and from "pinxe pimu ko'a" it may follow that "pinxe ko'a". That will depend on the detailed semantics of "pinxe". From "pinxe pino ko'a" it won't follow that "pinxe ko'a". How much of something you need to drink in order to conclude that you have drunk that something is not a matter to be decided by logic. As a general rule, you can't conclude "ko'a broda" from "piPA ko'a broda". It depends on the particular choice of PA and the particular choice of "broda". (Maybe on the choice of "ko'a" too.) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.