From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDoyODzBBoESl4HTw@googlegroups.com Mon Sep 19 22:28:19 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5ssS-00073x-1A; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:19 -0700 Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2sf195761qyk.16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :message-id:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Tp17YYW0aLU+6dKokGO8b/J7kG91k6J0Dx5h5T4Pn4w=; b=n/xWScBY0AZZUOj/hkqnzzBD0PJ3p8LzMulBBTsC4jIYbGKXjFGzLjEbOA6dA5ir3q lNKOEBaONiPRp01XMfLRVoGP1LSKCMQpgGAg5FGMAHOnxz3HWGzRXvtoy9bUaV9NI76T Y6W9gve/vwxtvaBSZp4KuUVmAtFHkb72/R0dg= Received: by 10.229.24.76 with SMTP id u12mr36417qcb.38.1316496488241; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.206.134 with SMTP id fu6ls128202qab.1.gmail; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.71.74 with SMTP id g10mr317589qaj.8.1316496487642; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.71.74 with SMTP id g10mr317588qaj.8.1316496487608; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w18si219689qcw.1.2011.09.19.22.28.05; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=UwuCiQyt7jHkjdoYW2VQEWtfJyhst2+aqhtsuVXDAZo= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=-ACYYPzRFHUA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=Z66TlIC7Eo4r5l_jkI8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:49802] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6B/D5-15749-064287E4; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:28:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A41214BD for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:27:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201109200127.39738.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline There's been a discussion going on that I don't understand, and probably most Lojbanists don't either. I don't know what Montague grammar, Kripke semantics, or Chierchia's down operator is. Should such discussions be taken somewhere else? Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.