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Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_10021390_AHfHjkQAAL5YTnhfoACsW0PkdXE Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:04:08 -0400 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8G4) X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.138.90.154 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1065528447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-1-1065528447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, as the old saying (I've been saying it for thirty some years) goes, "= If you want to have a logical language, you have to put up with a little lo= gic". In the present case, since it concerns {zo'e}, the most common unwri= tten word in Lojban, and thus {lo}, the most common written word (possibly = excluding {I} and { cu}), it would seem to be worthy of general attention. = The demands of the discussion are not great (yes, Montague's course was gr= aduate level, but Partee's was just Senior level and we don't need the whol= e pile here). So gird up and learn a little about possible worlds and mapp= ings and intensionality. Jboske would be a nice site, but,as noted, no one= goes there and there is no handy connection to it from the general site. Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:40, rdentato@gmail.com wrote: > On , Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > There is jboske@yahoogroups.com, but that one hasn't been posted to sin= ce 2007. >=20 > Great! Let's ask those that want to conduct such in-depth discussions to = move there! >=20 > remod > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --Apple-Mail-1-1065528447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Well, as the old saying (I've been say= ing it for thirty some years) goes, "If you want to have a logical language= , you have to put up with a little logic".  In the present case, since= it concerns {zo'e}, the most common unwritten word in Lojban, and thus {lo= }, the most common written word (possibly excluding {I} and { cu}), it woul= d seem to be worthy of general attention.  The demands of the discussi= on are not great (yes, Montague's course was graduate level, but Partee's w= as just Senior level and we don't need the whole pile here).  So gird = up and learn a little about possible worlds and mappings and intensionality= .  Jboske would be a nice site, but,as noted, no one goes there and th= ere is no handy connection to it from the general site.

Sent = from my iPad

On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:40, rdentato@gmail.com wrote:

On , Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
> There is jboske@yahoogroups.com, but that one hasn't bee= n posted to since 2007.

Great! Let's ask those that want to conduct = such in-depth discussions to move there!

remod

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