From lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBDFrIjzBBoEwjhssQ@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 03 04:58:07 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzorM-0004KR-Q5; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:58:07 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf2027356vwe.16 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=R4o59mpSXbgAyZXUtHbuiV8NtkRBpdb62hslm2vrWcs=; b=jmneLXLr9/kA1DGmCk05nGQuiYyR8Bw7ZetmKlP/QYehZhYmYUMeDI1dDt4JzGJeoV L3TZM8C3EJqOhkNl/lEe0TjrgmUpLmzibMC8CbWulXvt+mqMs2CDGv7FrIGtvpClJhb3 hT+98bzK/mV69536Hgl8V1qyvlEFEzst67Kbs= Received: by 10.220.148.194 with SMTP id q2mr2785vcv.52.1315051077095; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.28.171 with SMTP id c11ls2215636vdh.1.gmail; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.27.8 with SMTP id p8mr975682vdg.25.1315051076089; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.27.8 with SMTP id p8mr975681vdg.25.1315051076080; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f43.google.com (mail-qw0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5si995174vdu.1.2011.09.03.04.57.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.43; Received: by qwm42 with SMTP id 42so3375508qwm.16 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.62.103 with SMTP id w39mr1554462qch.292.1315051075510; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.221.209 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:57:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] re'o vs ne'a From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From BPFK: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Contact+Spatial re'o (FAhA3) Adjacent to. Indicates that something is adjacent, touching or contacting. When tagging a sumti, the sumti indicates something which it is adjacent to, touching or contacting. See also: te'e. Keywords: adjacent, abutting. ne'a (FAhA3) Indicates that something is adjacent. When tagging a sumti, the sumti indicates something which it is next to. Keywords: adjacent. next to. approximating. Both mean adjacency. The contrasting keywords are "abutting / touching / contacting" versus "next to / approximating". This implies the following: da pe re'o de X which is adjacent to and on contact with Y da pe ne'a de X which is adjacent to and not on contact with Y Questions: Why should "ne'a" belong to the "Contact Spatial" category? How is "ne'a" different from the traditional "vi"? mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.