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[66.94.237.94]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id h45si786580yhe.6.2011.09.20.14.50.32; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.94 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.94; Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2011 21:50:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2011 21:50:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2011 21:50:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 996720.46602.bm@omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21965 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Sep 2011 21:50:31 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: A6gNSC4VM1m2qDVuIqiS0yQc7VFTC29fSR.sXVVbFI5soIt TZehWSV8nt_pgDpQbac3zQ62fWKYU094CyUp7nkIqSm03x8_pRJKbxoJ6icm RfbXDXYH85n6eq2UlaZGC9LRCUZJAQ4RBbLnvymilZmLhgVp.vP38n8yDlc0 JQahGKssiuhK3t.i723kVjylQGF7LE4_TZS77Sq_fpmoug67pWFZQKeHtcgp 3iH9alzr48VCSm1UP.kSvphaM9z98DxJV9D7rETCmq7y0xeB_HWSIpUOW8aR 9cMPT2_U3zbwFUwtqRiZx3DNn9Li0u10p5WkTUeGZuNYShgYl6YyL60Yh3G0 iPejNo_m0xRIrdFeNdevj_fUpdBOxQ78Zg4hz3MAnPizWE6gdWL.pgSmwmOW zq0s8yDwVhgIcfcFuNCpqjEirObkenbvHCYBNbdCBrOcuOfQzlQHq5PdLPUs LU9.BPYkT0krITScz4Aj5zukMfOX4v7xxGPgZGF9vZMvY4jiAM5ZPu9ulTKP NT5aImDPMkDbTaA-- Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:50:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/574 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 References: <90e6ba6e8ea2b4b5d104ad5c4012@google.com> <94BEFB7E-3B68-4F1A-BAE4-55232754DB45@yahoo.com> <1316552990.27459.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1316555431.89488.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:50:31 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.94 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't mean to be rude, but it is a fair point, nonetheless and I am genuinely interested. I am glad you find other joys in in it than clarity of argument and syntactic form. I hope that the investigation into the minutiae will turn up devices that you can use to even more pleasing effects. And do follow along, you will learn quite a bit (not necessarily things you want to know, to be sure). Meanwhile, you can have your vegetables (if that is not too rude) and I my rabbit with uninterfering pleasure. ----- Original Message ---- From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, September 20, 2011 4:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:09 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > Well, in keeping with the saying, what is the attraction of Lojban to you? Personally I find this an extremely rude response. The reasons I like Lojban are the more diverse and the fact that it can attract different people is a testimony of its greateness. You may think it's a nice abstract toy to dissect, I like the sound and the shape of the sentences. I like tanru and I like zo'e and I like how sentences come out as different from any other language that I know. I'm not interested in the hidden corner of the grammar, unless they bring something to the understanding of the language itself. If the only way to understand what you are talking about is to come up at your level of knowledge, probably I won't need your explanation. As Seneca said: "in eodem prato bos herbam quaerit, canis leporem, ciconia lacertam" remod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.