From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhCzpovzBBoEZwg2sQ@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 03 18:24:14 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R01RT-0001Cl-Tv; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:14 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf4109543gwb.16 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mgm3Pg4S6d3rXf7MyELO19D2RKHNxZIqwpn7xnCDHFs=; b=aJjWqLvs1NF3o8Zd9E8PJMe/tpCaxIa7qM9hQvbfs31rok5wtihlPKMqGpdlvZSo/k 92fG++kMjGTIbQANgNG/fINaS/wPBBx0OJ9ZKmUMtHKsMO1l57Tkl5+2pmjKUAVuZoAW y69bP2Vpzqrd7D6TFJaY/RS3BcDkQoqB4tJ24= Received: by 10.101.96.2 with SMTP id y2mr306871anl.25.1315099443967; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.233.7 with SMTP id f7ls5820396anh.7.gmail; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.86.12 with SMTP id o12mr1271275anl.16.1315099443307; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.86.12 with SMTP id o12mr1271274anl.16.1315099443284; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f49.google.com (mail-yw0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g7si2907030ane.1.2011.09.03.18.24.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.49; Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so3079077ywp.36 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.225.4 with SMTP id x4mr2169272ybg.106.1315099443118; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:24:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.212.19 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7b8b7e41-f4bb-413b-97ae-88f112a32aa0@d3g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> References: <20110903200414.GM9995@digitalkingdom.org> <7b8b7e41-f4bb-413b-97ae-88f112a32aa0@d3g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Regular Language To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Graham Morehead wrote: > >=A0No human can understand a sentence of infinite length anyway. I strongly disagree! Run on sentences can get somewhat confusing in natlangs, but they're perfectly comprehensible in Lojban. I'm planning to write a novel length sentence in Lojban (to be followed by a novel length tanru and a novel length lujvo) which I expect to be perfectly comprehensible. You simply go along forgetting the grammar of earlier parts of the sentence as it continues attaching phrases to the end. It's like tail recursion optimization, I think. Anyway there's no grammatical reason you can't continue understanding a sentence of infinite length forever, presuming of course that you're immortal for some reason. I know that not only from deduction but from practical experiments. Here, I'll write a bit of run on Lojban to demonstrate. mi ca tavla do noi na'e mutce lo ka djuno fi la .lojban. noi mutce cinri zi'e noi do la'a nelci lo nu do tavla fo ke'a da'i gi'e pilno ke'a goi ko'a so'i cinri nu finti lo lojbo noi mutce lo ka kulnu sarji .e lo ka melbi .e lo ka sursurla jai rinka kei noi milxe frica lo darlu tadji noi mi zgana zi'e noi mi milxe na'e nelci zi'e noi du lo pu'u xusra lo cizra je tsali je jai se srera la'a sai to mi xusra lo du'u la'a sai srera kei ki'u lo nu nibli kei na .e lo nu mutce cafne zgana toi kei noi mi na'e jimpe fi ke'a zi'e noi jai cfipu mi noi sampu jbopre zi'e noi sampu djica lo nu pilno lo melbi lo melbi noi na'e jai se sarcu lo nu darlu so'i cunso noi na'e se krasi lo pu'u jbobau pilno je peisku kei noi rinka so'i xamgu nu pensi ku .e so'i xamgu nu finti ku zi'e noi mutce xamgu zi'e noi mi djica je'u lo nu do troci doi jbodau to mi djica lo nu mi xusra lo du'u to va'o lo da'i nu do je'u tcidu dei noi cizra toi do po'o nai jai fanza mi noi ca tavla do so'i cafne nu lo cnino prenu cu maljgira xusra so'i so'i jai se bebna noi milxe jai zdile zi'e noi ku'i mutce lo ka jai fanza zi'e noi mutce lo ka milxe lo ka plixau fi lo nu rinka lo nu melbi binxo fa la ma'a bangu no'u la .lojban. noi melbi zi'e noi plixau zi'e noi kakne lo nu terju'a fi lo mutce clani no'u dei mu'a noi do tcidu zi'e noi do na'e la'a tcidu gi'e ku'i zgana gi'e peisku lo glico simsa be lu xu jetnu fa lo du'u ta poi cizra jufra cu ranji ranji ranji cizra kei noi jai cfipu mi noi na'e lobykai pensi li'u zo'o na .e lo drata poi simsa zi'e poi mleca lo ka stace kei ri'a lo za'i do djica lo nu krici lo du'u do zmadu be mi'a djuno fi mi'a noi je'u do djuno mo'a da ke'a fa do noi .u'u mi fengu cusku fi ke'a zi'e noi sampu troci lo nu jimpe fi lo cizra bangu noi na'e banzu se ciksi zi'e noi nandu se ciksi zi'e noi cizbau gi'e cizra gi'e ci'izra se mu'i so'i nu lo nintadni cu co'u jundi kei noi mi'a na'e fengu zi'e noi mi'a no'e nelci ki'u lo za'i mi'a djica lo nu la .lojban. noi kakne tu'a dei zi'e noi kakne so'i simsa se manci cu jai se snada gi'e se sarji Etc. Forever. Simple. mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.