From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC_q4DzBBoEEmo91g@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 01 16:31:21 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzGj8-0007Ot-Vn; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:21 -0700 Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33sf1475776qyk.16 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tqvAFHSWqkpV8GBtvkwttQglwveMTtB2W5iaLdrMLbQ=; b=4BOP1oz0Q8FVU1uWcC4davfPS1WTgyDgois3fVZrchrDSwhJy4ccwfcp3zYp/8Pe15 +BCFfYOOTTEMVfl6hH67qjpz7HMPjoCesjh0QjYYXJtqwOKvVadp+EACZYiywjcM6MRj jyPW8VurdfLCDRbJtDsh4POfxwOZ4yQ+yT03c= Received: by 10.224.173.79 with SMTP id o15mr43027qaz.30.1314919871293; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.196.134 with SMTP id eg6ls1281004qab.6.gmail; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.105.134 with SMTP id t6mr304965qao.14.1314919870551; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.105.134 with SMTP id t6mr304964qao.14.1314919870542; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f173.google.com (mail-vx0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m27si414768qcz.2.2011.09.01.16.31.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.173; Received: by vxi32 with SMTP id 32so1872414vxi.4 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.202 with SMTP id x10mr376803vde.452.1314919870310; Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.163.133 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2011 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 20:31:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: assignment affected by context From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Are you sure that {na} isn't somehow special in this regard (since it is > special in several other regards)? In what way is it special? If you don't like "na", try any other operator with scope over the quantifier, such as: ro mi'o pinxe pimu lo djacu goi ko'a "Each of us drank half of the water (from now on referred to as "ko'a")" or: mi ka'e pinxe pimu lo djacu goi ko'a "I could drink half of the water (from now on referred to as 'ko'a')" >Also, the definition of {lo} involves > {zo'e}, which means that the context of the sentence may affect the referent > of {lo djacu}, no? Yes, whatever referent "lo djacu" has is the one that gets assigned to "ko'a". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.