From lojban+bncCN673cmqFBCy2J7zBBoEmRiWEg@googlegroups.com Wed Sep 07 10:39:12 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R1M5b-0001Gb-NO; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:39:11 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf773685qwh.16 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-ct-class:x-ct-score:x-ct-refid:x-ct-spam :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:organization :user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sSYex+QKFzAFYu8KfVZp3sUIOXdyrZKz19M0myFet3k=; b=gxSwjeIfvq4oG3rNd3w3hPAhlXk3qo/O2Fr+A6TUioHdkmZzgp9VVgXbCAAUAzzun6 LNdG/OGSdmoBHw/kR9jQR9NNO3sWR+IK0HynV4l7Z0P7Tt3SHcbylzvFnfXRhR2TSaY3 94rYQTnI1MYgKWXQyMXeVXEa6EEIyx6BWNnSY= Received: by 10.224.214.9 with SMTP id gy9mr673773qab.20.1315417138230; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.186.195 with SMTP id ct3ls3716007qab.3.gmail; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.191.200 with SMTP id dn8mr3316321qab.4.1315417137351; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.191.200 with SMTP id dn8mr3316319qab.4.1315417137336; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m27si589413qcz.2.2011.09.07.10.38.56; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.217 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.217; Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110907173855.XIPL32466.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 13:38:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.187.237.100]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Vtep1h00A2AfMYu02tepjz; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:38:55 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.4E67AC2F.0112,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5AHg1zS6fKBk64vkGL/stHpTKznySuNzRq0QOAs0BF0= c=1 sm=1 a=dYDkaTZZu5wA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=l1lZ45BAkMP37kjS3GUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=dxBpO5_FDU0A:10 a=MQZuvjT3xUZLKv0gclfWMg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4E67AC15.9080802@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:38:29 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] tosmabru test References: <0016e6d3878a9d815804ac578789@google.com> In-Reply-To: <0016e6d3878a9d815804ac578789@google.com> X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.217 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed rdentato@gmail.com wrote: > On , "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" > wrote: > > Remo Dentato wrote: > > > > Reviewing what others have written, I will say that the answer is > "yes and no", with the technical purist answer being "no". > > > > At one time Pierre and my wife Nora were working on a generalized > word-breakdown algorithm, but the effort stalled out, and I don't know > if anyone has worked on such a thing in the last couple of years. Nora's > last effort *may* have been satisfactory, but we never found a practical > way to test the algorithm, and I think there were open issues left > undecided. There is no name for the generalized algorithm (which would > break down any text string marked for stress uniquely. > > > Is the description of the algorithm available somewhere? > I now use a very rough test to check that a "word" can't be broken as a > CMAVO+BRIVLA and for slinkuhi that it's "Craf3*(gim?$|raf4?y)" but not > "raf3*(gim?$|raf4?y)", I might get some inspiration by reading Nora & > Pierre Algorithm. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Dictionaries,+Glossers+and+parsers under "old software" has a link to both the algorithm and the Turbopascal program Nora wrote to implement it. She and Pierre may have advanced the state of the art beyond that point (but any changes would be minor), but unless Pierre speaks up, I'll have to wait until Nora is home to ask whether that is absolutely current (to the extent that anything 20 years old is "current"). lojbab -- Bob LeChevalier lojbab@lojban.org www.lojban.org President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.