From lojban+bncCJiil_r2FRCGn4PzBBoE08hPCg@googlegroups.com Fri Sep 02 05:44:02 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QzT6E-0005AK-PU; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:44:01 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf2334226gxk.16 for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:43:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BSbq6d5p1KcG5rKjjaschfUASCfED3+p71CdvtbAVVY=; b=Y1stV8PkhNZ0MpZdd7PBvs7q5rfcbNPbcJpdohRLIqxePIroIr8rgUuABbukvb9xF3 VKT6HKaULqQtA2QkLL168a/wfnf2OibyAoWHTyTkBdOUCMAR4B7KKnswHc6A98zEmnzv ITfBoypAZCRIbyo4N7OvGsRqaa5EI6YUPnIbc= Received: by 10.90.3.35 with SMTP id 35mr156153agc.21.1314967430805; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:43:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.122.4 with SMTP id u4ls4014951agc.5.gmail; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.176.136 with SMTP id b8mr4868733yhm.7.1314967430048; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.109.2 with SMTP id h2msybc; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.189.6 with SMTP id r6mr113165anp.15.1314967168015; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by z18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 05:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 05:39:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <1879948a-7dc3-47e0-8d37-61869dc610f9@z18g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: assignment affected by context From: "buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk" To: lojban X-Original-Sender: buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greeting, I will speak in English because I am still learning a language Lojban, and thank God we know in English now as a transitional phase to communicate. Perhaps I shall be the subject other than you are talking about now, where I joined recently to continue with the community to Lojban. It is interesting to talk about my experience in this life of language in general then I will follow what you are talking about: Frankly do not praise myself, I have a genius in - Humanities - not only language. After all, happiness for someone does not do me harm as long as I am happy therefore indicative of good anyway: I live in an Arab Muslim and we know what language really means!! My father an Arabic language teacher, I has been affected a lot, I am a specialist with something else. It had a glossary that explains all Arabic word popped in my mind that I shall memorized because the full splendor of what it. I have a friend loves the Arabian language and his father Dr. in it, you may not see when person speaks of proverbs or tandem and contradictory of the terms, add to that the the personality of the individual affected, I noted that the Arabic language lovers loves to wear sports clothes a lot, and this is something I like about my friend and me as well. Anyway ... After that I learned that there are languages =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bartificial,= so that better. Note that there is an artificial languages =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bfrom A= rabic from 500 years ago but did not hear about because the lack of internet. Now you stand perplexed in front of this huge number of artificial languages =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B_ whichever is chosen? _ -you must learn the language _ With the research I found that the consensus of literariests the best artificial language can be spoken is lojban and also as last language for the future, for that I am about to learn because I love language Not to mention that you can sit with your friend all -day long- talk with him and sells the world without being bored. I do not mean that you forget other things ... Bye On 1 =D8=B3=D8=A8=D8=AA=D9=85=D8=A8=D8=B1, 19:35, Ian Johnson wrote: > But {lo djacu} necessarily becomes {lo se pinxe}, then. OK, fair enough. > > mu'o mi'e .latros. > > 2011/9/1 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas > > > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ian Johnson > > wrote: > > > Are you sure that {na} isn't somehow special in this regard (since it= is > > > special in several other regards)? > > > In what way is it special? If you don't like "na", try any other > > operator with scope over the quantifier, such as: > > > =C2=A0ro mi'o pinxe pimu lo djacu goi ko'a > > =C2=A0"Each of us drank half of the water (from now on referred to as "= ko'a")" > > > or: > > > =C2=A0mi ka'e pinxe pimu lo djacu goi ko'a > > =C2=A0"I could drink half of the water (from now on referred to as 'ko'= a')" > > > >Also, the definition of {lo} involves > > > {zo'e}, which means that the context of the sentence may affect the > > referent > > > of {lo djacu}, no? > > > Yes, whatever referent "lo djacu" has is the one that gets assigned to > > "ko'a". > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den.- =D8=A5=D8=AE=D9=81=D8=A7= =D8=A1 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=86=D8=B5 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=85=D9=82=D8=AA=D8=A8=D8=B3 = - > > - =D8=B9=D8=B1=D8=B6 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=86=D8=B5 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=85=D9=82=D8= =AA=D8=A8=D8=B3 - --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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