Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:64238) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9V7O-00054v-OO; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:54:46 -0700 Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32sf1909867pzk.16 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:54:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:reply-to:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-spam-score :x-spam_score:x-spam_score_int:x-spam_bar:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QTwTp3zpHDykACMdmSjyr8eGbZQrqXZOvk4LBNsIaFU=; b=0bk4HM5/fXiMthdAQqRDFn76yhgHDq6dB62Uash5fZ0XJBC3jdKjWwAO1WB3Lf1NPm 4mz5JG4rb0ujN4hyNwx997hLGft2vGOWpAxdzE3xoe/NFTmAf8e3xjVl/TvqFKUIFQMc e1fm46cxCvoaY9M3kU43txFkZtJzGB1WD2YrU= Received: by 10.68.38.195 with SMTP id i3mr4842806pbk.2.1317357931260; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.19.131 with SMTP id f3ls10723292pbe.5.gmail; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.38.38 with SMTP id d6mr37434725pbk.4.1317357930249; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.38.38 with SMTP id d6mr37434724pbk.4.1317357930239; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (173-13-139-236-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kr11si5086624pbb.1.2011.09.29.21.45.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9UyX-00051i-2e for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:29 -0700 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]:57093) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9UyV-00051W-5a for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:28 -0700 Received: by yih13 with SMTP id 13so1944473yih.16 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.162.2 with SMTP id p2mr1210977ano.4.1317357920440; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: djandus Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Message-ID: <32514220.68.1317357919910.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqlb4> In-Reply-To: <20110929125138.GS29295@sunflowerriver.org> References: <20110928182404.GA11528@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20110929044617.GL11528@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20110929125138.GS29295@sunflowerriver.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] lojban.org is broken MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_bar: / Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jandew@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_67_14186752.1317357919908" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_67_14186752.1317357919908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:51:14 AM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote: > > .i la camgusmis cu ckaji lo rokci > So, I'm confused. I thought that even though {ckaji} is defined to have a= =20 ka-based x=E2=82=82 place, when using it you must say {lo ka}. Is that not = the case,=20 or is this just a special case of eliding {ka} when it's usage would be=20 obvious? (something which I thought would be left to {tu'a}...) mu'o mi'e djandus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/sO5NJ1VPoCIJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_67_14186752.1317357919908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:51:14 AM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote= :
.i la camgusmis cu ckaji lo r= okci

So, I'm confused. I thought that e= ven though {ckaji} is defined to have a ka-based x=E2=82=82 place, when usi= ng it you must say {lo ka}. Is that not the case, or is this just a special= case of eliding {ka} when it's usage would be obvious? (something which I = thought would be left to {tu'a}...)

mu'o mi'e djan= dus

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