Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:36063) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMjxj-0000qL-Lu; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:28 -0700 Received: by iage36 with SMTP id e36sf6012605iag.16 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-spam-score:x-spam_score :x-spam_score_int:x-spam_bar:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DPHrWr8DEF79hGilnaoaw11jAQVyJAdjd71X/vw0Jp0=; b=nINNTptaiDUgcU8inTrZfp7YA0tfrB+uSEHiOk9h+eF6fOJ5rKvJ0ZIz8nsIePpuUU Ft/As4aLr/M+BJcKRdmL2ZYd9UT3NPM4gp7esSisZDnzL6Yhv2YuXWgm+dMeLpkoieeN piWuj1e90J42ccuOOTLuifwgsj1NMdNhr/UOA= Received: by 10.50.184.233 with SMTP id ex9mr2110688igc.16.1320513795307; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.120.35 with SMTP id b35ls10151942ibr.4.gmail; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.146.3 with SMTP id h3mr1961198icv.2.1320513794611; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.146.3 with SMTP id h3mr1961195icv.2.1320513794598; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r5si9575952pbe.1.2011.11.05.10.23.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMjxZ-0000qF-Jg for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:13 -0700 Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com ([209.85.161.53]:49810) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMjxY-0000q5-Dx for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:13 -0700 Received: by faan15 with SMTP id n15so873276faa.40 for ; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.10 with SMTP id im10mr3119020lab.2.1320513784829; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.19.198 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 10:23:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111105115950.GJ8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20111105115950.GJ8607@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 14:23:04 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words, but general relevance: dai-like cmavo From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.8 X-Spam_score_int: -7 X-Spam_bar: / Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > OK, so there's {dai}. =A0{.ui dai} means "you are happy, and I am also > happy along with you". It doesn't actually mean that, but it is an appropriate thing for me to say when I feel (or imagine) that you are happy, and I am also happy along with you. > Similarily, I also want {.oi [I see that you are feeling this; I'm > not myself, but I observe it in you]}. =A0Which, again, {za'a do > dunku}, but when I'm in the flow speaking Lojban, I want a UI for > it. It is fine to just say ".oi" there. You are not saying it *to* the baby, you are saying it *with* her. It works even better if you don't use your own normal voice but a baby-like voice imitation. Remember that the referent of "mi" can be more subtle than just your own old self. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.