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> I'm not sure what "intent scrutiny" means. I think "lanli" might be
> better than catlu/zgana for "scrutinize".
>
> "Intense scrutiny" could be "lo nu carmi lo ka lanli".
>
Reading your question as "intense scrutiny" but with the desire to use the 
"inspects" interpretation of catlu for baby-words purposes, I'd imagine 
{tsali catlu} or {denmi catlu} would make sense, though if there is not a 
particular emphasis on the type of sensing, {lanli fi lo nu zgana} or 
similar definitely makes more sense to me.

({.i ta'o}, if the {denmo} bothers you, it bothers me too -- I was looking 
for a word for "focus", but {denmo} is as close as I could get. Given, 
{denmo jundi} makes a lot of sense to me.)

mu'o mi'e .djandus.
 

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<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex=
;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><p>I'm not sure what "inte=
nt scrutiny" means. I think "lanli" might be<br>better than catlu/zgana for=
 "scrutinize".</p><p>"Intense scrutiny" could be "lo nu carmi lo ka lanli".=
</p></blockquote><div>Reading your question as "intense scrutiny" but with =
the desire to use the "inspects" interpretation of catlu for baby-words pur=
poses, I'd imagine {tsali catlu} or {denmi catlu} would make sense, though =
if there is not a particular emphasis on the type of sensing, {lanli fi lo =
nu zgana} or similar definitely makes more sense to me.</div><div><br></div=
><div>({.i ta'o}, if the {denmo} bothers you, it bothers me too -- I was lo=
oking for a word for "focus", but {denmo} is as close as I could get. Given=
, {denmo jundi} makes a lot of sense to me.)</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o =
mi'e .djandus.</div><div>&nbsp;</div>

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