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Obviously this doesn't matter with printouts, but are the references
linked? That is, in the generated pdf, if you click on the "Section 1.17"
bit, will it take you to that section?

The only thing I can think of that might fix it is to first determine what
page each of these sections is on, and do a find/replace on them in the
references. The problem with that is, the initial work of creating the
section x = pg(s) y database is quite likely a lot of effort, even if the
actual find/replace can be fully automated, and the database would need to
be recreated anytime there's a change to the page structure (I mostly refer
to addition or deletion of content, but even font changes apply).

If there were a way to automatically determine which page(s) a certain
section will be on in the generated document, it would be possible to
automate the whole thing, including the f/r database creation, but I have
no idea how to go about doing that.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

>
> So I would dearly love to be able to generate a PDF version of
> CLLv1.1 from the HMTL version.  The problem I'm finding with all of
> the converters I've tried is that they don't fix internal cross
> references from names into page numbers, so that the index (for
> example) is full of things like:
>
> klama: Section 1.17, Section 2.4
>
> rather than:
>
> klama: 4, 8
>
> Either an html->pdf converter that handles this, or something that
> converts the cross references in the resulting pdf, would be
> fantastic.
>
> -Robin
>
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Obviously this doesn&#39;t matter with printouts, but are the references li=
nked? That is, in the generated pdf, if you click on the &quot;Section 1.17=
&quot; bit, will it take you to that section?<br><br>The only thing I can t=
hink of that might fix it is to first determine what page each of these sec=
tions is on, and do a find/replace on them in the references. The problem w=
ith that is, the initial work of creating the section x =3D pg(s) y databas=
e is quite likely a lot of effort, even if the actual find/replace can be f=
ully automated, and the database would need to be recreated anytime there&#=
39;s a change to the page structure (I mostly refer to addition or deletion=
 of content, but even font changes apply).<br>
<br>If there were a way to automatically determine which page(s) a certain =
section will be on in the generated document, it would be possible to autom=
ate the whole thing, including the f/r database creation, but I have no ide=
a how to go about doing that.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Robin Lee P=
owell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org">=
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex;">
<br>
So I would dearly love to be able to generate a PDF version of<br>
CLLv1.1 from the HMTL version. =A0The problem I&#39;m finding with all of<b=
r>
the converters I&#39;ve tried is that they don&#39;t fix internal cross<br>
references from names into page numbers, so that the index (for<br>
example) is full of things like:<br>
<br>
klama: Section 1.17, Section 2.4<br>
<br>
rather than:<br>
<br>
klama: 4, 8<br>
<br>
Either an html-&gt;pdf converter that handles this, or something that<br>
converts the cross references in the resulting pdf, would be<br>
fantastic.<br>
<br>
-Robin<br>
<br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"http://singinst.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://singinst.org/</a>=
 : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.<br>
Lojban (<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.loj=
ban.org/</a>): The language in which &quot;this parrot<br>
is dead&quot; is &quot;ti poi spitaki cu morsi&quot;, but &quot;this senten=
ce is false&quot;<br>
is &quot;na nei&quot;. =A0 My personal page: <a href=3D"http://www.digitalk=
ingdom.org/rlp/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/</a><b=
r>
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