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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5si3974202pbb.1.2011.11.30.09.42.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVoAY-0000jq-9e for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:42:06 -0800 Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53]:43321) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RVoAP-0000jd-Gi for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:42:05 -0800 Received: by ywm19 with SMTP id 19so1102025ywm.40 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.78.72 with SMTP id f48mr5344341yhe.121.1322674911189; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:41:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.14.2 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:41:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20111130173647.GO8581@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:41:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Rant (baby related): dasni, taxfu, and all their friends. 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See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems > to list all of them. > > {taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that > tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the > sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that > actually *is* wearing it. > > This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is > with {dasni}. > > WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te > pastu}? > > :P :P :P > > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". 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On Wed, Nov 30, = 2011 at 12:36 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wro= te:

AFAICT, *NONE* of the clothing words have a place for "being worn
by...". =A0See http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/taxfu , wich seems=
to list all of them.

{taxfu} has such a place, but it's ... umm, I'm not sure what that<= br> tense is called; intentional or something?, but it's a place for the sort of person that *could* wear the thing, not the person that
actually *is* wearing it.

This means the *only* way to talk about people wearing clothing is
with {dasni}.

WTF is the point of having place structures if I can't say {mi te
pastu}?

:P :P :P

-Robin

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Lojban (http://www.loj= ban.org/): The language in which "this parrot
is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this senten= ce is false"
is "na nei". =A0 My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/
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