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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: .ie sai -Robin On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:48:25PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > So just for a quick clarification. I saw the subject line and cried a > little inside. > > the x3 of mutce and traji must die .iepei > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > The "towards extreme/direction X" is seriously the worst idea > > *ever*, for the simple reason that you can get *exactly the same > > effect* by throwing a {to'e} in the {ka} place. It's an extra place > > to memorize, and it makes understanding the meaning of the word > > *very* confusing. > > > > "mutce" doesn't actually mean "very", it means "very, or very not, > > or very orthogonal to, or, well, just about anything really". > > > > mi mutce lo ka nelci lo grute kei lo ka milxe > > > > And that's not even me *trying* to do messed up shit with that > > place. > > > > All of this would be acceptable, except that it keeps *infecting* > > *lujvo*. > > > > nelrai - x1 most loves x2... or most hates them, or is basically > > indifferent, or thinks they are blue, or who knows? > > > > nolrai - x1 is a king ... or whatever the opposite of a king is?, or > > who knows? > > > > These places must die! > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. [...] Content analysis details: (0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.160.61 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see ] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature .ie sai -Robin On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:48:25PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > So just for a quick clarification. I saw the subject line and cried a > little inside. > > the x3 of mutce and traji must die .iepei > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > The "towards extreme/direction X" is seriously the worst idea > > *ever*, for the simple reason that you can get *exactly the same > > effect* by throwing a {to'e} in the {ka} place. It's an extra place > > to memorize, and it makes understanding the meaning of the word > > *very* confusing. > > > > "mutce" doesn't actually mean "very", it means "very, or very not, > > or very orthogonal to, or, well, just about anything really". > > > > mi mutce lo ka nelci lo grute kei lo ka milxe > > > > And that's not even me *trying* to do messed up shit with that > > place. > > > > All of this would be acceptable, except that it keeps *infecting* > > *lujvo*. > > > > nelrai - x1 most loves x2... or most hates them, or is basically > > indifferent, or thinks they are blue, or who knows? > > > > nolrai - x1 is a king ... or whatever the opposite of a king is?, or > > who knows? > > > > These places must die! > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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