Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:51239) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYWRN-0006YI-J8; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:55:14 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf2884453pbb.16 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :sender:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IQXbl7PXi7FdxsRPmm9QGGejqwbazGTEnJFlmrL4A/k=; b=KMVCAmee+e9VSM1OzryxbdP7lPqZjq7qMXWxwZuVc9JXohaqEqPAC77ovgtliz8LVU j86sUOfItpuk+qeMydF2WE5Pkk9eI5BMo/+8IBiqd7swLRVHIJXRMU9unJDyBLIGc04v xImlq8Q9KzFXgJ7qKp04New3nnhH8XIjhlD2Y= Received: by 10.68.236.170 with SMTP id uv10mr625461pbc.11.1338098091570; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.195.100 with SMTP id id4ls14283807pbc.8.gmail; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.234.38 with SMTP id ub6mr3672664pbc.2.1338098091252; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.234.38 with SMTP id ub6mr3672663pbc.2.1338098091243; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq5si18290594pbc.1.2012.05.26.22.54.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYWRG-0006YC-Eq for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:50 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SYWRF-0006Y5-TD; Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:54:49 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby Words: Effort. Message-ID: <20120527055449.GC3745@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20120504185220.GJ13003@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:08:50PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > I'm at something of a loss to express happiness at my babies putting > > out a real effort at something. =A0That's A Big Deal, because the > > latest research indicates that praising effort (rather than innate > > ability or accomplishment) is one of the best ways to raise happy > > adults. > > > > I've been doing stuff like {.i do nandu troci .io sai}, but it's > > pretty unsatisfying. =A0Ideas? >=20 > ".a'i dai .i'e" I was thinking bridi; I find the current (incredibly fuzzy) semantics of {dai} unsatisfying. Nailing that shit down is on the list. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li= 'u --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.