Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:46054) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2f3-0002RT-6R; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:08:00 -0700 Received: by qauh8 with SMTP id h8sf1434690qau.1 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=odhm0iV/dTygMhHdhPFSnGFwoQPlxzOC+1krTGIk9y0=; b=zx6svUvmJkjf2rRdHJH6dJ7ZFR7cL3vNQweCv01GAksu38Pi5Eg3Yt3e/wBGYd4Al3 WJBaPvNUX1U0rn8Lq8QxAoBYPUSw+pb1FFd2WtX9d9fWPBLbfzgW98NYZ75WxI80b4wG b+ZPaZ5VXQinenIBVU6vvDVU2aS8I+pmeRV3o= Received: by 10.68.235.37 with SMTP id uj5mr339093pbc.13.1339175258200; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.201.73 with SMTP id jy9ls2077857pbc.3.gmail; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.193.129 with SMTP id ho1mr6864146pbc.8.1339175257736; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.193.129 with SMTP id ho1mr6864143pbc.8.1339175257726; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tf10si6165236pbc.0.2012.06.08.10.07.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sd2eu-0002RE-6P; Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 10:07:36 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] Helping with spam on lojban.org (cizyprijev , najrut, please read) Message-ID: <20120608170735.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20120607172601.GX24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120608085346.GO24040@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201206080827.55352.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20120608141538.GP9665@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120608141538.GP9665@sunflowerriver.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 08:15:14AM -0600, .alyn.post. wrote: > > Wikipedia likely has a greater need for a 'default-open' policy > than lojban.org, but I do think the ban-hammer should be a last > resort, with prevention and development of better cleanup tools > our higher priority. Fantastic. When do you start? :D Generally speaking, I'm much more interested in banning users than IPs, but when multiple spam users come from the same IP... Banning blocks seems a bad plan, though. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.