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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iq5si5200359pbc.1.2012.06.13.05.28.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Semg3-0005Ds-8t for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:27:59 -0700 Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:50391) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Semg1-0005Dg-Jp for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:27:58 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5so489599ggk.16 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.65 with SMTP id k1mr92786vdf.7.1339590471316; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Message-Id: <5146aa9c-5310-47f1-b4f8-4616e421061e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20120603195142.GF8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120603195142.GF8656@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: [lojban] Re: What is the x3 of tubnu? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_bar: / Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_611_23251524.1339590470680" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_611_23251524.1339590470680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The concept might be useful. Imagine that I have a metallic pipe in my house for water. I say that it's "jinme tubnu" and "djacu tubnu". With 3 places it seems quite convenient to say tubnu lo jinme lo djacu But needless to say that most places in one given gismu can be safely replaced with several distinct predicates. On Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:51:42 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote: > > > tubnu -tu'u- > > x1 is a length of tubing/pipe/hollow cylinder [shape/form] of > material x2, hollow of material x3. > > Also tube, sleeve, leg, hose, (adjective:) tubular. See also kevna, > canlu. > > -- > > So is the x3 stuff that *isn't* in the tube? If so, why have it? > > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/GkFYtGG-DCEJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_611_23251524.1339590470680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The concept might be useful.
Imagine that I have a metallic pipe in my = house for water.
I say that it's "jinme tubnu" and "djacu tubnu".=
With 3 places it seems quite convenient to say tubnu lo jinme lo= djacu
But needless to say that most places in one given gismu ca= n be safely replaced with several distinct predicates.

On Sunday, Ju= ne 3, 2012 11:51:42 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:

tubnu -tu'u-

x1 is a length of tubing/pipe/hollow cylinder [shape/form] of
material x2, hollow of material x3.

Also tube, sleeve, leg, hose, (adjective:) tubular. See also kevna,
canlu.

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So is the x3 stuff that *isn't* in the tube?  If so, why have it?

-Robin

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http://singinst.org/= :  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakn= i li'u

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