Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:59523) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Smue8-00025F-4x; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:44 -0700 Received: by yenl13 with SMTP id l13sf9924121yen.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-spam-score:x-spam_score :x-spam_score_int:x-spam_bar:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RrfZwsTkb+eWQ3lYVZEkIuBlO/JDucixi5i2p9RFSRY=; b=0X9O4kripvKzugR1BtpjehraTGd9GBf70TuJirvJqCO1nvTPeUOxSlw6q/NYmQuI2V qjxRvQnwoP1b9sg9z4vh2xhQ0FBAU5f/Wm8+ZAtHjErTWX6cesbPpqOFbuWuTW0U4QTl 9p5wxC5dnzo8Jv71Je8uuU8z/hMOjffHDbr4s= Received: by 10.68.242.106 with SMTP id wp10mr807916pbc.3.1341527729571; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.229.8 with SMTP id sm8ls1533104pbc.0.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.67 with SMTP id ry3mr11180644pbc.8.1341527729075; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.67 with SMTP id ry3mr11180643pbc.8.1341527729066; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si2150058pbc.1.2012.07.05.15.35.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Smue0-00025A-3r for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:28 -0700 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com ([209.85.217.181]:52905) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Smudy-000250-N5 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:27 -0700 Received: by lbbgk8 with SMTP id gk8so13207051lbb.40 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.195 with SMTP id tu3mr27886484lab.16.1341527719113; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.63.48 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:35:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: position/shape, or something. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.8 X-Spam_score_int: -7 X-Spam_bar: / Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > The sentiment was "Yay! You changed position from sitting to > crawling! Well done!", and I just got completely stuck; how do we > talk about the difference between a person sitting and a person > crawling? ui .i'e do cenba co'a lo nu zutse kei co'u lo nu cpare The difficult part is a word or phrase for "position" as in "stance", but that's the same problem we have for all such names of properties ("shape", "size", "age", "height", and so on). We have words for specific types of them, but not for the general property. You could also say "do binxo lo cpare co'a lo nu zutse". > That is: changes in the position of the parts of an object that > change nothing intrinsic about it? Something like "cenba lo ka lo pagbu be ce'u cu zvati ma kau". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.