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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tj3si4139260pbc.0.2013.03.10.12.21.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UElo3-0005TN-La for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:21:15 -0700 Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.212.46]:39386) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UElnw-0005T1-6p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:21:15 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b13so1302615vby.19 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.45.71 with SMTP id k7mr3954548vem.0.1362943261656; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.1.38 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130310184951.GH18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:20:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: fixing past actions. To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013cc328f6015d04d796f406 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e013cc328f6015d04d796f406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Errr, I guess that'd have to be "vrude se zukte" or "vrude se gasnu" since vrude1 is an actor/entity, not the action that is/not virtuous. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > mmm "lo nu do xruti kei na rinka lo nu pu lebna kei vrude"? > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> >> I don't often get totally stumped when speaking to the babies these >> days, but I found myself wanting to say: >> >> "the fact that you put it back doesn't change/fix/erase that you >> took it in the first place" >> >> and I just have no idea how to even start. >> >> (This, by the way, is an example of why I refuse the label "fluent") >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni >> li'u >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --089e013cc328f6015d04d796f406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errr, I guess that'd have to be "vrude se zukte" or "vru= de se gasnu" since vrude1 is an actor/entity, not the action that is/n= ot virtuous.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:18= PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
mmm "lo nu do xruti kei na rinka lo nu = pu lebna kei vrude"?


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digi= talkingdom.org> wrote:

I don't often get totally stumped when speaking to the babies these
days, but I found myself wanting to say:

"the fact that you put it back doesn't change/fix/erase that you took it in the first place"

and I just have no idea how to even start.

(This, by the way, is an example of why I refuse the label "fluent&quo= t;)

-Robin

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http://singinst.org/= : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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