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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ga4si3917083pac.1.2013.07.10.05.13.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of escaaape@gmail.com) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwtHR-0004u4-Qu for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:57 -0700 Received: from mail-ie0-f194.google.com ([209.85.223.194]:33998) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UwtHK-0004tg-4V for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:57 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f194.google.com with SMTP id 9so3141777iec.1 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.72 with SMTP id f8mr6976024igc.53.1373458423266; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.33.240 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jul 2013 05:13:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130708172215.GA4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20130708172215.GA4227@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:13:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "more". From: Jean Meyrand To: lojban , lojban-list@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of escaaape@gmail.com) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c65de6ec2ee04e1273544 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e013c65de6ec2ee04e1273544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Robin, I am admirative of the way you try to inculcate your baby lojbanic notions. Nevertheless, I wonder it may be senseless to teach lojban in such a way, because it is basically the way we learn natlangs. I sincerely doubt anybody can guess the way Lojban works on the sole basis of trials&errors, rather it seems to me that such an artifical logical language can only be taught in a prescriptive kind of professoral way. At least, by reading manuals, and having a priori strong notions of grammar and formal logic... Regards, Escape 2013/7/8 Robin Lee Powell > > As in "Do you want more food?", or, for the baby to say "more food". > > {jmina} is the closest I've seen, but it's a pain in the ass for > that sort of purpose; the places are wrong. > > -Robin > > -- > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Robin, I am admirative of the way you try to inculcate you= r baby lojbanic notions.

Nevertheless, I wonder it= may be senseless to teach lojban in such a way, because it is basically th= e way we learn natlangs. =A0 I sincerely doubt anybody can guess the way Lo= jban works on the sole basis of trials&errors, rather it seems to me th= at such an artifical logical language can only be taught in a prescriptive = kind of professoral way. =A0 At least, by reading manuals, and having a pri= ori strong notions of grammar and formal logic...

Regards, Escape


2013/7/8 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>

As in "Do you want more food?", or, for the baby to say "mor= e food".

{jmina} is the closest I've seen, but it's a pain in the ass for that sort of purpose; the places are wrong.

-Robin

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http://intelligence.= org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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