Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.27]:1283) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XTbDB-0007wM-7q for lojban@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:41:18 -0700 Received: from a4.localnet (129-25.ftth.alicecomfortplus.nl [92.254.25.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s8FIf6hL078197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:41:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ariep@xs4all.nl) From: Arie Peterson To: lojban@lojban.org Subject: Pronunciation of 'o' in Lojban Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:41:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1566433.UBisD8XZHK@a4> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (Linux/3.10.7-gentoo; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_bar: -- Hi, In chapter 1 of "Lojban for beginners"=20 (),= it=20 says to pronounce the Lojban letter 'o': "as in bold or more =E2=80=94 not as in so (this should be a 'pure' sou= nd.)". However, according to the wikipedia page=20 , the preferred pronunciat= ion of=20 this letter is IPA [o] (close-mid back rounded vowel), which, if I unde= rstand=20 correctly, is the 'o' in "so", not in "bold" or "more". As this email address is mentioned in the preface of the beginner's gui= de, I=20 was hoping that you might clarify this for me. Thanks and regards, Arie