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[100.33.73.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i63sm10503080qgf.47.2015.02.01.13.49.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Feb 2015 13:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 16:49:15 -0500 To: "llg-members@lojban.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Following today's IRC session, I am formally presenting for consideration the following revised draft of the "BPFK REAUTHORIZATION" proposal. Based on the IRC discussion, I have made a few changes from the previous draft: [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in gmail.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.192.51 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (shunpiker[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid Subject: [Llg-members] Motion: BPFK Reauthorization X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5562400982709268595==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5562400982709268595== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DF58F646-E27A-4FA9-82B6-012EBA553CA0" --Apple-Mail=_DF58F646-E27A-4FA9-82B6-012EBA553CA0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Following today's IRC session, I am formally presenting for = consideration the following revised draft of the "BPFK REAUTHORIZATION" = proposal. Based on the IRC discussion, I have made a few changes from = the previous draft: * BPFK is explicitly authorized to recognize/recommend standards = documents which may have originated outside the committee. This is to = avoid BPFK becoming a bottleneck (perceived or actual) holding back the = production of documentation, especially the next edition of CLL. * Clarification on the process to elect the BPFK chair. The election of = the first fixed-term chair of BPFK will originate in LLG -- a concession = to the fact that there doesn't currently seem to be a clear sense of = membership in that committee, so I'm not sure BPFK is prepared to make a = nomination now, but I'd be happy to be wrong about that. The nomination = of subsequent chairs is expected to originate in the committee, and to = be included in the annual report to the membership, with LLG's customary = role in the selection of a chair limited to a vote of confidence = confirming the nomination. * Replaced any references to {jatna} with "chair" to avoid reopening old = debates on role of the chair of BPFK within LLG at-large. The chair is = responsible for organizing the work of the committee and reporting it to = the membership. LLG is responsible for maintaining the relationship with = the committee by recognizing the chair and approving its reports. The = details of how the committee does its business are explicitly delegated = to the chair. * Added language to clarify that where the new policy may be found to = conflict with the considerable body of policy that has aggregated over = the years, the new policy should be held to be the governing one. It seems like the role of the chair in this proposal has generated the = most controversy -- at least in the IRC sessions. I made some changes to = the language to respond to issues raised by Nora, Selpa'i, and Ilmen, = and would be glad to continue to discuss how best to arrange things so = that BPFK can carry out its work, maintaining a clear relationship with = LLG, but also protecting its work from administrative interference: A = doctrine that seems to have attracted a lot of agreement over the years, = but which has never been well-represented in the formal policy. I'd welcome a second, amendments friendly or otherwise, and discussion. --Riley ---- Motion: BPFK REAUTHORIZATION LLG hereby recommissions BPFK (a.k.a. "banpla fuzykamni", "baupla = fuzykamni", "byfy") as a standing committee with the charge of improving = and maintaining formal descriptions of Lojban, elaborating undocumented = and under-documented language features, resolving inconsistencies and = errors in existing documentation, and responding to issues that arise in = usage. BPFK is expressly empowered to determine its own decision-making process = and pursue its own agenda within the scope of its charge as specified in = this charter. BPFK is authorized to propose standards for the lojban language which = may include lists of words, definitions in various languages, human or = mechanical specifications of the grammar, and instructional or reference = texts. BPFK may develop standards documents or recognize documents which = have been developed by other bodies or individuals. Standard documents may be reported to the Annual Meeting for = ratification by a two-thirds majority of the general membership. Once = ratified, these may be described as "official standards" of LLG. When = the Annual Meeting is not in session, BPFK may seek Board approval of = standards, which upon such approval, may be described as "interim = standards". Upon adoption of this policy, the Annual Meeting of LLG membership will = hold an election for the office of chair of BPFK. Henceforth, BPFK may, = in its annual report to the membership, nominate a candidate to serve a = subsequent term as chair. If such a candidate is reported, LLG = membership will hold a vote of confidence requiring a simple majority to = confirm the nomination. If no candidate is nominated by BPFK, or if the = nominated candidate is not confirmed by the membership, an open election = will be held by LLG membership. At no time will membership in LLG or = BPFK be considered a requirement for the position of chair of BPFK. The natural term of the office of chair of BPFK will begin at the time = of the confirmation or election at the Annual Meeting and extend to the = confirmation or election of a chair at the subsequent Annual Meeting, or = to the adjournment of that meeting if no chair is elected or confirmed. = Should the chair become vacant for any reason while the Annual Meeting = is not in session, the Board may ask the committee to nominate an = interim chair to serve the balance of the term. Should the committee = fail to forward a nominee, or should more than one nominee be forwarded, = the Board reserves the discretion to appoint an interim chair. In the case that the Annual Meeting of LLG membership fails to confirm = or elect a chair, the committee will be considered suspended until such = a time as an interim chair is appointed by the Board, or until the = election of a new chair at a subsequent Annual Meeting. In the case that policies specified in this document are found to = contradict policies previously established by LLG or its Board of = Directors, the policies in this document should be held to supplant the = previous policies.= --Apple-Mail=_DF58F646-E27A-4FA9-82B6-012EBA553CA0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

* BPFK is explicitly = authorized to recognize/recommend standards documents which may have = originated outside the committee. This is to avoid BPFK becoming a = bottleneck (perceived or actual) holding back the production of = documentation, especially the next edition of = CLL.

* Clarification on the process to elect = the BPFK chair. The election of the first fixed-term chair of BPFK will = originate in LLG -- a concession to the fact that there doesn't = currently seem to be a clear sense of membership in that committee, so = I'm not sure BPFK is prepared to make a nomination now, but I'd be happy = to be wrong about that. The nomination of subsequent chairs is = expected to originate in the committee, and to be included in the annual = report to the membership, with LLG's customary role in the selection of = a chair limited to a vote of confidence confirming the = nomination.

* Replaced any references to = {jatna} with "chair" to avoid reopening old debates on role of the chair = of BPFK within LLG at-large. The chair is responsible for organizing the = work of the committee and reporting it to the membership. LLG is = responsible for maintaining the relationship with the committee by = recognizing the chair and approving its reports. The details of how the = committee does its business are explicitly delegated to the = chair.

* Added language to clarify that where = the new policy may be found to conflict with the considerable body of = policy that has aggregated over the years, the new policy should be held = to be the governing one.

It seems like the role = of the chair in this proposal has generated the most controversy -- at = least in the IRC sessions. I made some changes to the language to = respond to issues raised by Nora, Selpa'i, and Ilmen, and would be glad = to continue to discuss how best to arrange things so that BPFK can carry = out its work, maintaining a clear relationship with LLG, but also = protecting its work from administrative interference: A doctrine that = seems to have attracted a lot of agreement over the years, but which has = never been well-represented in the formal = policy.

I'd welcome a second, amendments = friendly or otherwise, and = discussion.

--Riley

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LLG hereby recommissions BPFK (a.k.a. "banpla =
fuzykamni", "baupla fuzykamni", "byfy") as a standing committee with the =
charge of improving and maintaining formal descriptions of Lojban, =
elaborating undocumented and under-documented language features, =
resolving inconsistencies and errors in existing documentation, and =
responding to issues that arise in usage.

BPFK is expressly empowered to determine its own decision-making process =
and pursue its own agenda within the scope of its charge as specified in =
this charter.

BPFK is authorized to propose standards for the lojban language which =
may include lists of words, definitions in various languages, human or =
mechanical specifications of the grammar, and instructional or reference =
texts. BPFK may develop standards documents or recognize documents which =
have been developed by other bodies or individuals.

Standard documents may be reported to the Annual Meeting for =
ratification by a two-thirds majority of the general membership. Once =
ratified, these may be described as "official standards" of LLG. When =
the Annual Meeting is not in session, BPFK may seek Board approval of =
standards, which upon such approval, may be described as "interim =
standards".

Upon adoption of this policy, the Annual Meeting of LLG membership will =
hold an election for the office of chair of BPFK. Henceforth, BPFK may, =
in its annual report to the membership, nominate a candidate to serve a =
subsequent term as chair. If such a candidate is reported, LLG =
membership will hold a vote of confidence requiring a simple majority to =
confirm the nomination. If no candidate is nominated by BPFK, or if the =
nominated candidate is not confirmed by the membership, an open election =
will be held by LLG membership. At no time will membership in LLG or =
BPFK be considered a requirement for the position of chair of BPFK.

The natural term of the office of chair of BPFK will begin at the time =
of the confirmation or election at the Annual Meeting and extend to the =
confirmation or election of a chair at the subsequent Annual Meeting, or =
to the adjournment of that meeting if no chair is elected or confirmed. =
Should the chair become vacant for any reason while the Annual Meeting =
is not in session, the Board may ask the committee to nominate an =
interim chair to serve the balance of the term. Should the committee =
fail to forward a nominee, or should more than one nominee be forwarded, =
the Board reserves the discretion to appoint an interim chair.

In the case that the Annual Meeting of LLG membership fails to confirm =
or elect a chair, the committee will be considered suspended until such =
a time as an interim chair is appointed by the Board, or until the =
election of a new chair at a subsequent Annual Meeting.

In the case that policies specified in this document are found to =
contradict policies previously established by LLG or its Board of =
Directors, the policies in this document should be held to supplant the =
previous policies.
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