Received: from localhost ([::1]:58008 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YLXPE-0003Lx-Vf; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:32:41 -0800 Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.216.45]:54815) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YLXPC-0003Lj-Bz for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:32:38 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j7so2523434qaq.4 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:32:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=HYYA/7kxOurxz6rkU9mF+DKd9M5jeL9I6MZ/9IYUl6o=; b=uDYcraK8CZL1O82BsjoXbRMqyJIIsEoiHZid2xKAbs47fejnTtFIAZ3+/Q6XrILPyX hw3vGo6mdrWL5igjUYaC0Q0VtywmR72jj5mCNMJXP+V5pbMw8/iWO9palk2HPR2BThTX Um8TzJ2ffxwp/L0cSwL0KlN4Jdyoe5J1/XEzGMpKC0GmXGpArDvjIJ+3dyXP7gSURjjk Sd3o3gY+mdEsXRZkcN1ujqpEtD7jmI9zN/vqZyC7FkKfXu9h5ozdHBskAuT0qPquGIvo Sc0DHE59JfOPxOFCQe9Crjxr3SZ2cG0G2GEgx8/0g0HQGT3Byrb5XOhMrsW1YDxGrZAM NHKg== X-Received: by 10.140.83.163 with SMTP id j32mr61688479qgd.52.1423661551975; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from caliban.fios-router.home (pool-100-33-73-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [100.33.73.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r10sm751656qax.31.2015.02.11.05.32.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:32:31 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch In-Reply-To: <54DA533B.2090803@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:32:29 -0500 Message-Id: <4E24C299-83E4-456A-90FD-EEB052A9206D@gmail.com> References: <54D471BB.2070605@lojban.org> <54D66BA8.5040607@lojban.org> <08041A2E-FC72-4E80-AAB4-468A1A3C4DB4@gmail.com> <54DA533B.2090803@lojban.org> To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.7 X-Spam_score_int: 7 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: lojbab: > I don't think that we are bound to limit BPFK by parliamentary procedure; in fact, we haven't yet done so. That's an important point, and I want to be clear that I do not intend to propose anything different. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in gmail.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.216.45 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (shunpiker[at]gmail.com) -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders Subject: [Llg-members] BPFK and process X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org lojbab: > I don't think that we are bound to limit BPFK by parliamentary procedure; in fact, we haven't yet done so. That's an important point, and I want to be clear that I do not intend to propose anything different. I see BPFK's relationship with parliamentary procedure to be limited to the fact that BPFK is defined as a committee of LLG, which is an organization governed by parliamentary procedure. One of the major reasons for forming a committee is to create the conditions for work to be done without all of the process of the parent organization. I hope that the proposed policy is seen as a step in the direction of reducing procedural overhead for BPFK. There's an irony in proposing a process to limit process, but not in this case, an absurdity -- or so I hope. --Riley _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members