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([2600:1017:b410:d566:70b7:97f4:d2af:22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm3092623qgf.17.2015.02.27.10.27.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Feb 2015 10:27:57 -0800 (PST) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:28:00 -0500 References: <54ED23C4.8050008@lojban.org> To: llg-members@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <54ED23C4.8050008@lojban.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Motion on BPFK passes. Remaining Old business. X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7486266568254020718==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7486266568254020718== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_496022D3-D159-4451-853A-582EAF997CA7" --Apple-Mail=_496022D3-D159-4451-853A-582EAF997CA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Here is my tally of the vote on the motion to reauthorize BPFK. Voted for the motion (16): Pierre Abbat Arkadii Balandin Alex Burka Craig Daniel Sylvain D=E9jardin Jacob Errington Miles Forster Bob LeChevalier Jorge Llamb=EDas Adam Lopresto Riley Martinez-Lynch And Rosta Paul Swift Veijo Vilva Mitsuko Wate TommyLee Whitlock Did not vote (7): Ali Sajid Imami Arnt Richard Johansen Nora LeChevalier Timo Paulssen Robin Lee Powell Theodore Reed Mark Shoulson I would be glad to post a call for volunteers to lojban-announcements = this weekend, or to defer to anybody who would like to take that up. If = nobody speaks up in the next day or so, I will take this up. As for other old business, if presiding officer recognizes it as such, I = would like to ask the membership to approve or amend this presentation = of the bylaws, which includes a number of amendments which were passed = at the 2003 Annual Meeting, but which -- as far as I can tell -- were = never integrated into the public text: = http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Bylaws+of+The+Logical+Language+Group%2C+Inc.+%2= 82014%29 As much as possible, I used the text of the minutes of the 2003 Annual = Meeting (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+2003+Annual+Meeting+Minutes) to = reconstruct the necessary changes. I also sought clarification on the = mriste (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/7IS0b62FKhE), and = lojbab responded on several points. The changes to the bylaws, relative = to the previously published version, are recorded in footnotes 12-16. To be clear: I am not seeking any new changes in the bylaws. I just want = to confirm that this is an accurate reflection of the amendments which = were passed in 2003, and that this version can be therefore considered = to reflect the actual bylaws of the organization. --Riley Martinez-Lynch On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:22 PM, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - = LLG" wrote: > The motion reauthorizing BPFK passes, though there were several = non-votes. (I'll leave it to Riley in lieu of the secretary to report = the actual voting.) >=20 > No one has spoken up expressing interest in either BPFK membership or = the chairmanship. I (or possibly Riley) will post an announcement to = the Lojban announcement list calling for candidates to contact me. = Because this may take some time, I will not hold up the meeting awaiting = it, but will pass it off to new business. >=20 > Remaining Old Business items, some of which were discussed in the = first IRC session, include the following that I mentioned at the time of = the CLL 1.1 motion. >=20 >> but worthy of discussion (after dealing with the motion), would be >> 1) if/how we want to advertise and/or promote the new release >> 2) whether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or updated >> 3) whether we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin Turner's = textbook via Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be = amended/updated (probably at least to include xorlo) >=20 >> Any/all of these topics are open for discussion at this time. >=20 > It is not clear to me whether 2) or 3) are necessarily BPFK jobs, so = we probably need volunteers if people want to see those books = updated/(re)published. >=20 > One other possible topic will be to find ways to expedite Pierre's = committee effort designing the Lojban qualification test, which was = mentioned in the BPFK discussion as a possible qualification for BPFK = membership. But that can't happen unless the test is created. >=20 > If anyone else has topics for Old Business, please speak up now. >=20 > (New business topics include the Project manager proposal, and the = BPFK appointments. I suspect that there were other things proposed for = discussion that I said could be under New Business, but I can't find = them.) >=20 > I'll allow a couple of days for people to start discussion on any of = the above topics or to propose other Old Business topics for discussion. >=20 > lojbab >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members --Apple-Mail=_496022D3-D159-4451-853A-582EAF997CA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Pierre = Abbat
Arkadii = Balandin
Alex = Burka
Craig = Daniel
Sylvain D=E9jardin
Jacob = Errington
Miles Forster
Bob = LeChevalier
Jorge = Llamb=EDas
Adam = Lopresto
Riley Martinez-Lynch
And = Rosta
Paul Swift
Veijo = Vilva
Mitsuko = Wate
TommyLee = Whitlock

Did not vote (7):

Ali = Sajid Imami
Arnt Richard Johansen
Nora = LeChevalier
Timo Paulssen
Robin Lee = Powell
Theodore Reed
Mark = Shoulson

I would be glad to = post a call for volunteers to lojban-announcements this weekend, or to = defer to anybody who would like to take that up. If nobody speaks up in = the next day or so, I will take this up.

As for = other old business, if presiding officer recognizes it as such, = I would like to ask the membership to approve or amend this = presentation of the bylaws, which includes a number of amendments which = were passed at the 2003 Annual Meeting, but which -- as far as I can = tell -- were never integrated into the public = text:


As much = as possible, I used the text of the minutes of the 2003 Annual = Meeting (http:/= /www.lojban.org/tiki/LLG+2003+Annual+Meeting+Minutes) to reconstruct = the necessary changes. I also sought clarification on the mriste = (https:= //groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/7IS0b62FKhE), and lojbab = responded on several points. The changes to the bylaws, relative to the = previously published version, are recorded in footnotes = 12-16.

To be clear: I am not seeking any new = changes in the bylaws. I just want to confirm that this is an accurate = reflection of the amendments which were passed in 2003, and that this = version can be therefore considered to reflect the actual bylaws of the = organization.

--Riley = Martinez-Lynch

On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:22 = PM, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" <lojbab@lojban.org> = wrote:

The motion reauthorizing BPFK passes, though there were = several non-votes.  (I'll leave it to Riley in lieu of the = secretary to report the actual voting.)

No one has spoken up = expressing interest in either BPFK membership or the chairmanship. =  I (or possibly Riley) will post an announcement to the Lojban = announcement list calling for candidates to contact me. Because this may = take some time, I will not hold up the meeting awaiting it, but will = pass it off to new business.

Remaining Old Business items, some = of which were discussed in the first IRC session, include the following = that I mentioned at the time of the CLL 1.1 motion.

but worthy of discussion (after dealing with the motion), = would be
1) if/how we want to advertise and/or promote the new = release
2) whether the Lojban intro book needs to be amended or = updated
3) whether we want to seek to publish Nick Nicholas/Robin = Turner's textbook via Lightning Source, and whether it needs to be = amended/updated (probably at least to include = xorlo)

Any/all of these = topics are open for discussion at this time.

It is = not clear to me whether 2) or 3) are necessarily BPFK jobs, so we = probably need volunteers if people want to see those books = updated/(re)published.

One other possible topic will be to find = ways to expedite Pierre's committee effort designing the Lojban = qualification test, which was mentioned in the BPFK discussion as a = possible qualification for BPFK membership.  But that can't happen = unless the test is created.

If anyone else has topics for Old = Business, please speak up now.

(New business topics include the = Project manager proposal, and the BPFK appointments.  I suspect = that there were other things proposed for discussion that I said could = be under New Business, but I can't find them.)

I'll allow a = couple of days for people to start discussion on any of the above topics = or to propose other Old Business topics for = discussion.

lojbab

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