Received: from localhost ([::1]:52906 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YmJtt-0004wv-8b; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:35:01 -0700 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com ([209.85.212.175]:37034) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YmJto-0004wg-NF for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:35:00 -0700 Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so61582427wid.0 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:34:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ig5eOPPWfJKcH5qYx2Z6CxvqNIwv2+TmhjBTBQD1jBY=; b=lnvNgeaEs8X5uKfEsPfgi+kOlGmSV4Xkx+oyIu87F+eMv30DO4QGUnB6eGC7IMWy7I ihgvoFiFJHxMAZJ9oA8jcatd399IM8/qX2EKLqy3CE7IL6EfiQotN48RKXmwtmMtW7eM p4C1lhTm32w6esLAx7eKnU5icWabkAUgYwVKyncXqqx7zszOnGlj+ueC+SgutUDd8JKQ m8bSNWUEJi7yA5tyT7eyBXXYz1w68rs+gUZFnf9LSdOzlmO7UIUEtitd4dPyEEZzQBa7 FYem2QL2p7tZD6G/reLJ1f9pxpDTe4n06JrezF8/w36hKzS3c/0FhZ++Y4pdsmFYnTtD wZ1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.101.138 with SMTP id fg10mr11800655wib.46.1430044489812; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.170.193 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5530325A.2010303@lojban.org> References: <5502321A.2050208@lojban.org> <551ADCFF.20709@lojban.org> <552CA608.50200@lojban.org> <552D0CC2.7080502@selpahi.de> <552DA91A.8090207@lojban.org> <5530325A.2010303@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:34:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: And Rosta To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] New Business: other topics X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2385467803160787859==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============2385467803160787859== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444e9a5d4122805149e2d59 --f46d0444e9a5d4122805149e2d59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 16 Apr 2015 22:47, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" < lojbab@lojban.org> wrote: > > Having a community of speakers is an essential criterion for calling it a "language". Otherwise it is merely a language proposal or language design. I had written a reply both debating your point and expressing exasperation at your long history of reasserting it, but it was a bit intemperate so I decided to hold off sending it for a while, and now I've decided not to send it. Although I am willing to debate the question of what language is (and what the question means), I don't think there is any point in having that debate here and now. I continue to have a clear vision of what contribution LLG could best make to human knowledge, as per its mission statement, but we agree that LLG should not in fact attempt to make that contribution, because it is incompatible with the collective will of the Lojban community. And --f46d0444e9a5d4122805149e2d59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 16 Apr 2015 22:47, "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG&qu= ot; <lojbab@lojban.org> wrot= e:
>
> Having a community of speakers is an essential criterion for calling i= t a "language".=C2=A0 Otherwise it is merely a language proposal = or language design.

I had written a reply both debating your point and expressin= g exasperation at your long history of reasserting it, but it was a bit int= emperate so I decided to hold off sending it for a while, and now I've = decided not to send it.

Although I am willing to debate the question of what languag= e is (and what the question means), I don't think there is any point in= having that debate here and now. I continue to have a clear vision of what= contribution LLG could best make to human knowledge, as per its mission st= atement, but we agree that LLG should not in fact attempt to make that cont= ribution, because it is incompatible with the collective will of the Lojban= community.

And

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