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2015-12-22 19:55 GMT+00:00 Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com>:

> - This has come up ad nauseum before, but most of our official online
> presence runs from a server (two servers?) in Robin's basement, AFAIK. I am
> not suggesting that he does a bad job of managing this. However, if Robin
> wants to transition away from this role, it seems very reasonable for LLG to
> pay for some (virtual) server infrastructure and hire someone to administer
> it. I can help with this if we go that route.

I strongly agree to it. Maintaining servers for the official site is
too much work for being continued by volunteers.

> - Lastly, on a personal note, to advance Lojban as a language and a
> community we need to work together and not antagonize each other. I haven't
> always been great at this in the past and I will try to do better. To la
> guskant specifically, I echo that your work and participation are highly
> valued. However, if you'll allow me a critique, even when we strongly
> disagree I don't believe calling each other "eternal enemies" or "illogical"
> is productive. Most everyone involved in the incident regarding la zantufa
> has apologized to you, repeatedly and publically, and dare I say even
> learned from those mistakes something about the power and danger of labeling
> certain things as "official Lojban" (see my comment above about BPFK). I
> really hope we can put past spats in the past so that we can work together
> on future projects without fear of small arguments ballooning into schisms.
>

As I wrote several times, I don't blame you for abuse on my personal parsers.
I said "illogical" in the instruction page of zantufa:
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa
and it refers to people's declaration of feeling of unpleasantness on
my parsers.
Those are out of reasoning, out of logic, so I have no way to reply to them.
Most of your comments on my parsers are that kind of things, and I
don't think those are a kind of critics.
Some of your comments with words of "zantufa shame" are useful critics
and I thank you for the bug reports sincerely.
I also thank la selpa'i for his bug reports with more polite way than you.
I have not yet called you "eternal enemy", but only la gleki for the
reasons listed in the previous posts.
I have not yet observed that you declared that derivations other than
la zantufa are Lojban, so I don't know actually if it is correct to
call you an expeller of me from Lojban community. The judgement is
suspended.

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