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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:39:00 +0300
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2016-02-17 11:28 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:

>
> For example, I saw a Chinese Lojbanist claimed in Chinese language
> that the complete ban on consonant-glide-vowel (
>
> https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_Ban_on_consonant-glide-vowel_strings
> ) brought them more difficulty in creating cmevla from Chinese names.
> At the time of voting in BPFK, we had an alternative to save cmevla
> from the ban, but BPFK finally decided the ban for all words.


This must be discussed e.g. on the main list more.
I once tried to map Mandarin phonology and phonotactics to Lojban so that
in future Lojbanizing Chinese words could be made easier. But for obvious
reasons this won't be very popular (who speaks Mandarin?)

It seems that almost noone was able to support "still allow glides in
cmevla" because noone thought of problems with Chinese names. Even I myself
don't understand what are they.

E.g. "kuai" => {kuuaiin} is ugly, right whereas {kuain*} would be not?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
2016-02-17 11:28 GMT+03:00 guskant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
gusni.kantu@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gusni.kantu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
For example, I saw a Chinese Lojbanist claimed in Chinese language<br>
that the complete ban on consonant-glide-vowel (<br>
<a href=3D"https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK_Section:_Ban_on_consonant-glide=
-vowel_strings" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mw.lojban.org/=
papri/BPFK_Section:_Ban_on_consonant-glide-vowel_strings</a><br>
) brought them more difficulty in creating cmevla from Chinese names.<br>
At the time of voting in BPFK, we had an alternative to save cmevla<br>
from the ban, but BPFK finally decided the ban for all words.</blockquote><=
/div><br>This must be discussed e.g. on the main list more.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">I once tried to map Mandarin phonology and phonotactics to=
 Lojban so that in future Lojbanizing Chinese words could be made easier. B=
ut for obvious reasons this won&#39;t be very popular (who speaks Mandarin?=
)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">It s=
eems that almost noone was able to support &quot;still allow glides in cmev=
la&quot; because noone thought of problems with Chinese names. Even I mysel=
f don&#39;t understand what are they.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">E.g. &quot;kuai&quot; =3D&gt; {kuuaiin} is =
ugly, right whereas {kuain*} would be not?</div></div>

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