Received: from localhost ([::1]:40326 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVxgE-0003S3-G8; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:41:50 -0800 Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com ([74.125.82.48]:34667) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aVxg7-0003QM-4u for llg-members@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:41:48 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id b205so145060098wmb.1 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:41:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ss8wZ27nYbsRJG6VK3F5jkoEriQIvzaRR3n5CZTAqDo=; b=0gKKfegjnptWc2mXlC0sVJHog37D0lNTlWI9rJ/BycFkYR4/pxLkKS6if8f5904M4Q ZyUnO/NuoPuArQDXGfqgssO6Z3y+JT/ENqiAitVrHEALjZVt45CZo9IRVrLXkV6cQcao eOQyH17wqWg8KjfVtPqHWQ9QRteUZaPjpUDiV+LCqANiplh05TxovPPYzTuYWhIs6LKF KuQl655E4qXFzgYjfi9gPu/Bmxn0WgAhWB+2EWzKA/qD1oE+xHGHC4lAKSox8Xa3QXDM pb8GTczv05nxQ0x2zHtNZQbr0r6T3RuR8EUugUjMiyU00eXuTqMzndJ1y717hwWMrK8h oiFQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ss8wZ27nYbsRJG6VK3F5jkoEriQIvzaRR3n5CZTAqDo=; b=m6d4fFp4wvxINv4NxGo7M7BZwiSz5N3lDHogCCp0sKoV391Wln8pxDoYTsqu58idtJ 0H80ZZzwLZmhEgYhpsyAnwIeuuFIuT3mb6GPtTlWe8mCPoiaS003tAUvHiIPJbxfrrFC LoVcBnR1C4qnVhxusUWW98zad/YnRs2bYgdtf1sgSHGib4GAth5rwCliJnVhNITD4QKr olFXm45yQnKpvMujkpknTAuts6Uz7o6Y24DsdwCsh35jcwknValdDmLsymODsskeIeOl IBw2OUZF6d+E30r3ZkbFjzcaqF/E989K8HTzDEGWN6wv9GWNMRQnrfXb5yv8lOyA5vCE Xzyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORNRIjNsaa5Q3z/+L4WZ9JJocOSHA3klFt62kNIoLAHZaMPAgOf/dtDCL3LUxbtMkWEsHDm87L4ePrYOQ== X-Received: by 10.28.64.131 with SMTP id n125mr22372667wma.65.1455698496684; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:41:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.91.210 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:40:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <563CBDA4.5080308@selpahi.de> <4E514785-A922-4D75-B34A-EFB3880C5712@gmail.com> <566701E3.4060408@lojban.org> <566CD949.7010504@lojban.org> <5671E710.2020407@lojban.org> <56C37E88.4030000@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:40:57 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] International lojban community issues (was Re: 2015 Annual Meeting) X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8498648432932034545==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8498648432932034545== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114afa76cb89ee052bf33720 --001a114afa76cb89ee052bf33720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-02-17 11:28 GMT+03:00 guskant : > Another example from a Japanese community in Japaense language is that > Lojban lacks a feature for expressing "role-wording" (yakuwarigo: > https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BD%B9%E5%89%B2%E8%AA%9E > ). It is a feature that a characteristic wording is always applied to > speech of a character in a story in order to express a > (stereo-)typical role. I myself hate that feature of Japanese, but it > is worth considering for cultural neutrality of Lojban. I think Lojban > can have that feature by implementing a COI cmavo for expressing a > (stereo-)typical role (the usage of the new cmavo should be similar to > {ci'oi} for psychomime suggested by Tijlan), but I have never seen it > were discussed in any English-spoken community. > I think it should be discussed too then. But Lojbanists create new cmavo and brivla every week. I don't see a problem if e.g. Japanese community created and added new words to la jbovlaste themselves without asking anyone in English (a Lojban definition for such words would be desirable ofc.) --001a114afa76cb89ee052bf33720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2016-02-17 11:28 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
Another example from a Japanese community in Japaense = language is that
Lojban lacks a feature for expressing "role-wording" (yakuwarigo:=
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BD%B9%E= 5%89%B2%E8%AA%9E
). It is a feature that a characteristic wording is always applied to
speech of a character in a story in order to express a
(stereo-)typical role. I myself hate that feature of Japanese, but it
is worth considering for cultural neutrality of Lojban. I think Lojban
can have that feature by implementing a COI cmavo for expressing a
(stereo-)typical role (the usage of the new cmavo should be similar to
{ci'oi} for psychomime suggested by Tijlan), but I have never seen it were discussed in any English-spoken community.
I think it should be discussed too then. But Lojbanists create new cmavo a= nd brivla every week. I don't see a problem if e.g. Japanese community = created and added new words to la jbovlaste themselves without asking anyon= e in English (a Lojban definition for such words would be desirable ofc.)
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