Received: from localhost ([::1]:42313 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ajUUK-00083x-9S; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:29 -0700 Received: from mail-vk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:33853) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ajUTz-00082S-Gs for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:19 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e185so95661034vkb.1 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=uoQqtyf4i22trXuh6SwdaTgyRC03G3+hyH9T4eI4z5s=; b=Ps11/qL2EhO55PtFoUR+FR++FAMp74GRskznwnUFfdStqZCU12utS+GVsfi2eP7dJl qNj/VYqbuetbAyTbWwdOrjSqcLUnvlVv5in7inDR/ZowZaS9XtbiwGcFiFMLEoIdPQwX rk1Ty/WPlQvPeLrbwHzN4gWg3QB13vv8num9X7tzU37pkd7mE6iUG9kD+00zKkdHNoBq EipxqfbMWLzVW02QQbfyMvzszYvBD9kKacEjfY/pbOXTCR/v2Bf3W9+D2GdgUja5Fp6+ yFa6OBCieL9tQORjM6LijZ3ukyVBd1/WiSgMWzdoDN8XISl+uX3Hh5uER0/7ukaKA0CG R2Og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=uoQqtyf4i22trXuh6SwdaTgyRC03G3+hyH9T4eI4z5s=; b=T01KyR/PODLAwqvi6EvaX+n9gPMt2bLbYBa6jOzqH8izgJ73hs9YqhDXISelXQjqDI u/we+ie1CEJU20rZbV43HEoAjV6q7ZbPETpFFGoH6l9M8HOQrs2M4r+WRVobTuPa8PZ2 NeHCY87g9qj39OnUbZpdshWg2HkClOW+ywkNehlmKZA83016W5a+PZsXCqOeYMWxoVGe aC9dWs018Oy091UJ1MyibUtgxBhIoUjD31d0pEaWzMD7/5N1e0hWiafjHXifVJZhGjlB 2VWzHe+WwThzERCnYIh2z0k3YWHN936SAqZ7ppgZZP6eBqlcbXhCNHwFqVC1Zbpyrgse TcHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJe+C+iaH1sSTVJiP30EMrC8UxoClsjYSeU0F/c+xMM4FVLOZyphA9l2tNBFGihvq9XYX8fijur4iK3cw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.52.78 with SMTP id b75mr7689653vka.77.1458922861158; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.38.135 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.38.135 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8BCCD0E2-E6D4-4687-9D89-D177E69E1259@gmail.com> <56DE1D83.8050901@lojban.org> <8EC7FC36-8C8F-43FD-AE6A-C704D1D9C2CE@gmail.com> <12678381.nPyR9sEY1K@caracal> <56E0AE11.8020708@lojban.org> <56E1F54E.3040501@lojban.org> <56EF1C47.6060900@lojban.org> <56F467BF.9060405@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:21:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: Curtis Franks To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2015 Annual Meeting - Old Business X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8267140747815524861==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8267140747815524861== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430c7ae51924052ee1f2dd --001a11430c7ae51924052ee1f2dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mar 25, 2016 12:09, "And Rosta" wrote: > > So "Whensoever a BPFK exists, whensoever a CLL exists, and whensoever a Lojban language is to have any defining standards in whole or in part," means "Whenever there's a Lojban language planning committee, and there's a language definition docked, and a version of Lojban is to have any defining standards"? > > I'm not being *deliberately* obtuse, but it strikes me that if BPFK and CLL are narrowly defined then the motion is potentially too restrictive and if they're broadly defined then it is potentially misleadingly vacuous. > > --And. Assuming that I understand the word "docked" correctly, yes. The range of these meanings would be determined by interpretation of the LLG and/or BPFK (possibly with input from the general populace). --001a11430c7ae51924052ee1f2dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mar 25, 2016 12:09, "And Rosta" <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
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> So "Whensoever a BPFK exists, whensoever a CLL exists, and whenso= ever a Lojban language is to have any defining standards in whole or in par= t," means "Whenever there's a Lojban language planning commit= tee, and there's a language definition docked, and a version of Lojban = is to have any defining standards"?
>
> I'm not being *deliberately* obtuse, but it strikes me that if BPF= K and CLL are narrowly defined then the motion is potentially too restricti= ve and if they're broadly defined then it is potentially misleadingly v= acuous.
>
> --And.

Assuming that I understand the word "docked" corre= ctly, yes.
The range of these meanings would be determined by interpretation of the LL= G and/or BPFK (possibly with input from the general populace).

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