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On 4/12/2016 4:01 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> So one has the right to be silent for several months and suddenly decide
> "I forgot to mention something"?

If the meeting is going on, yes.  In actual fact, I will allow a limited 
amount of time for New Business, and then call for a motion to adjourn.

> I think members need to be prepared for every meeting immediately
> presenting their proposals when time for new business comes.

That would be nice, but the membership is being decidedly apathetic 
these days.

> There need to be rules for that.

They aren't enforceable.

  I would even limit LLG meetings to one
> month for voting on issues already prepared by others and discussed
> outside LLG meetings.
> Otherwise it seems this meeting can last forever with activity only once
> every several weeks.

The long duration of this meeting has in part been due to my health. 
There is a secondary reason in that I allow 3 days for email response on 
pretty much every decision-vote, because I know not everyone reads their 
email every day.

I suspect a diligent president/chair could keep the meeting down to 
probably 2 months and still allow reasonable time for all issues.  One 
month would probably be difficult if we allow the full Bylaw prescribed 
agenda.  Maybe next year someone on the Board will show enough 
interest/activity to let me delegate the chair role to them (but mukti 
already has a major meeting role as Secretary, and you have actively 
spurned officership).

Personally, I would love to go back to having the entire meeting take 
place in a couple of IRC sessions, with voting by email on some issues. 
  That worked really well for the couple of years that we tried it, 
except that participation gets real hard on anyone in the Eastern 
European and Asian range of time zones, if we set the time to be 
comfortable for Americans and Western Europeans.  I've tried to use 
Sunday (11am or noon EST) IRC sessions to help this in the last couple 
of years.

(When we held the meeting in IRC, it generally took a couple of sessions 
of 4 hours or so.  When the meetings were held here in Fairfax, using 
proxies for those unable to attend, the meetings took 6-8 hours. So any 
attempt at alternate meeting styles/formats pretty much has to allow for 
a total involvement of 8 hours, however long it may be spread over.)

lojbab


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