Received: from localhost ([::1]:45144 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ary1m-0005yB-RS; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:31:02 -0700 Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180]:33092) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ary1h-0005xt-AE for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:31:01 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id tz8so89784714obc.0 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=5Gj3SFc34cI1vK4htc/TNEvfM/ucnaLgjqOfFKA/85M=; b=PO5QPErZfLjYLkjoUcQGeumC0bIBazIbWpkFkqxZBMJNHM50Y+AYn2aZAzvxbEfRWQ FWWjyfkC4+u7hCveneO1wlSJsPc3IRzve270S8uXhOBL5rx9ckxtBbph0th32nn0Ayk4 SvwhCxXX6l1nnbb4CUKp9CKWGNkR4iyOEzhzphPqAschdYEg3kShBbeeQ+PEoVn/PwM/ IyVHm6woza4phaZ9BGh8jwpgFwiij4U6iyjRxEZXroBzx/tR35W/3YM9NzltZIUJiQQa vnlPxbhij9aCATeu3Ru97BT19MssWfyMmn4ivD9yqYW1WuiuxMxw3GM0UpUyNcEjCLmE wFWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=5Gj3SFc34cI1vK4htc/TNEvfM/ucnaLgjqOfFKA/85M=; b=NvgTJIUPiLIVWKWpL78nbIR1pfZCtZcb2ES78m96ZzBhZsMELKxmpXwy3yzuTrxqYd XF2gzrlATd/7v7tcVPbt9L4DomRHAy4lQddL4DKO/KowvO5pSxvPmV6m08N9BjElVLDL +hDwxt+oeupP4YttFbD91eeGIEtxV9cebO2/QUyAyDj2X8DfqLoDYXa5PEcU69+Fc2EL mS7kORqEGTJWw7tH3SArFOG2MGToPjMcHq0aOFjCCMuvrJNHo47XcpUT5FzyPIDjI6WM EGjiC56FRU3mkyg+ea8jIMN/SS2KvSaOh2naseFAeXNsXYPp1Fetxqd2JuQY25F6PLn/ kcuA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXkJwJfnyViRjqi/8E/eYNAjtYdUtdjpv4EwmVis5/Snr0RAu/lSTS7qt+D572YtX2ORLWgEseX2nFaUQ== X-Received: by 10.60.67.101 with SMTP id m5mr16159860oet.19.1460943051169; Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:30:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <571271C9.7050002@lojban.org> <50A08C82-B160-4ADB-B5D9-D2FBB307C32E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50A08C82-B160-4ADB-B5D9-D2FBB307C32E@gmail.com> From: Craig Daniel Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 01:30:41 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Annual meeting: New Business, anyone? X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6304905785596421981==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6304905785596421981== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c308a49a25b50530b84f0a --001a11c308a49a25b50530b84f0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I second la .karis.'s motion, and apologize for not being immediately responsive to this thread. I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any more so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59 EDT on April 26. For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay. - mi'e .kreig. On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, 9:20 PM Karen Stein wrote: > > > I would like to first respond to Guskant's comments, as follows : > > > >As Bob could not identify the motion among my complaints, maybe I had > >better make clear to the secretary what to record in the minutes. I > >herewith make a summary of the motion I raised: > > > >1. making a response to the open letter > >http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/open_letter/ > >; > > > >2. putting the official website under control of LLG and creating the > >website policies; > > > >3. depriving Gleki of his administratorship on the official website > >(as written in the open letter, not only the mediawiki engine but > >also any tools on Vrici server); > > > >4. asserting on the official website that the official body does not > >have any account of Twitter, or reporting the abuse of > >official-pretending account to Twitter. > > > > > I specifically want to comment on point number 2. I fully agree with this, > therefore... > > I move that full control over the official web pages known as the Logical > Language Group Web Page be placed under the jurisdiction of the official > membership of said group, also known as LLG. This body will designate who > does and who does not have authority to make changes to these pages. > Decisions of the Logical Language Group Board will be considered as > decisions of said membership when the membership has not made such > determination and the board determines that such a decision cannot wait for > the next scheduled membership meeting. > > karis > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --001a11c308a49a25b50530b84f0a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I second la .karis.'s motion, and apologize for not bein= g immediately responsive to this thread.

I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll = be out of town on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm lik= ely to be any more so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, = I hereby give my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this messag= e until 23:59 EDT on April 26.

For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membershi= p intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the proce= dural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay.

- mi'e .kreig.


On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, 9:20 = PM Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gma= il.com> wrote:


I would like to first respond to Guskant's comments, as follows :

<snip >
>As Bob could not identify the motion among my complaints, maybe I had >better make clear to the secretary what to record in the minutes. I
>herewith make a summary of the motion I raised:
>
>1. making a response to the open letter
>http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/open_letter/
>;
>
>2. putting the official website under control of LLG and creating the >website policies;
>
>3. depriving Gleki of his administratorship on the official website
>(as=C2=A0 written in the open letter, not only the mediawiki engine but=
>also any tools on Vrici server);
>
>4. asserting on the official website that the official body does not >have any account of Twitter, or reporting the abuse of
>official-pretending account to Twitter.
>
<snip>

I specifically want to comment on point number 2. I fully agree with this, = therefore...

I move that full control over the official web pages known as the Logical L= anguage Group Web Page be placed under the jurisdiction of the official mem= bership of said group, also known as LLG. This body will designate who does= and who does not have authority to make changes to these pages. Decisions = of the Logical Language Group Board will be considered as decisions of said= membership when the membership has not made such determination and the boa= rd determines that such a decision cannot wait for the next scheduled membe= rship meeting.

karis


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