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X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3549262879369465055==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3549262879369465055== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e35b0beb0df0530c7f1a3 --001a113e35b0beb0df0530c7f1a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Karen, Craig, and I each voted against the motion to adjourn in the other thread. You can count their votes as counting or not counting as you please, but my vote is and remains firmly against adjournment. On Apr 18, 2016 16:05, "Alex Burka" wrote: > I also vote against. Since the meeting is running quite long (the > motivation for adjournment, I guess), let's have more substantive > discussion and less of these "testing the waters" motions which are just > noise. > > -- mi'e la durka > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Adam Lopresto > wrote: > >> I vote against adjournment. >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - >> LLG wrote: >> >>> On 4/17/2016 9:30 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: >>> >>>> I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town >>>> on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any more >>>> so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my >>>> proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59 >>>> EDT on April 26. >>>> >>>> For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership >>>> intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the >>>> procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay. >>>> >>> >>> Per the statement of the Parliamentarian, this second triggers an >>> immediate vote WITHOUT discussion. >>> >>> Thus, please stop discussing the various other motions and topics that >>> (finally) attracted some discussion, until a majority has voted one way or >>> another on the motion to adjourn. >>> >>> While I suspect that some other people have already voted on adjournment >>> embedded in the messages already posted, I ask that people explicitly vote >>> on the motion to adjourn ***in a separate post***. >>> >>> (I will accept this message as Craig's vote given his explanation, but >>> I'd rather not even read the existing discussion posts (to look for >>> adjournment votes), so that I can keep track of what motions are on the >>> floor, if the meeting is not adjourned.) >>> >>> Please vote. If I see a majority of the entire membership voting one >>> way or another, I will rule on adjournment without waiting. Otherwise, >>> voting on the motion to adjourn continues until end of day Wednesday (20 >>> April) UT (and a majority of the votes cast will then determine the result) >>> >>> lojbab >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Llg-members mailing list >>> Llg-members@lojban.org >>> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --001a113e35b0beb0df0530c7f1a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Karen, Craig, and I each voted against the motion to adjourn= in the other thread. You can count their votes as counting or not counting= as you please, but my vote is and remains firmly against adjournment.

On Apr 18, 2016 16:05, "Alex Burka" &l= t;durka42@gmail.com> wrote:
I also= vote against. Since the meeting is running quite long (the motivation for = adjournment, I guess), let's have more substantive discussion and less = of these "testing the waters" motions which are just noise.
<= br>
-- mi'e la durka


On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM= , Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote against adjournment.

On Mo= n, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <= lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
O= n 4/17/2016 9:30 PM, Craig Daniel wrote:
I am in the middle of a seven-game home stand, and I'll be out of town<= br> on business when it ends, so I don't believe I'm likely to be any m= ore
so until next week. In the interests of fast processes, I hereby give my proxy to la .karis., effective from just after this message until 23:59
EDT on April 26.

For the sake of procedure being ensured to reflect membership
intentions, I second the motion to adjourn, but cast my vote on the
procedural point this immediately triggers as .ienai / Nay.

Per the statement of the Parliamentarian, this second triggers an immediate= vote WITHOUT discussion.

Thus, please stop discussing the various other motions and topics that (fin= ally) attracted some discussion, until a majority has voted one way or anot= her on the motion to adjourn.

While I suspect that some other people have already voted on adjournment em= bedded in the messages already posted, I ask that people explicitly vote on= the motion to adjourn ***in a separate post***.

(I will accept this message as Craig's vote given his explanation, but = I'd rather not even read the existing discussion posts (to look for adj= ournment votes), so that I can keep track of what motions are on the floor,= if the meeting is not adjourned.)

Please vote.=C2=A0 If I see a majority of the entire membership voting one = way or another, I will rule on adjournment without waiting.=C2=A0 Otherwise= , voting on the motion to adjourn continues until end of day Wednesday (20 = April) UT (and a majority of the votes cast will then determine the result)=

lojbab

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