Received: from localhost ([::1]:37260 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cE9eL-0002ja-Fu; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:54:49 -0800 Received: from mail-wj0-f170.google.com ([209.85.210.170]:34617) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cE9eG-0002ie-FP for llg-members@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:54:48 -0800 Received: by mail-wj0-f170.google.com with SMTP id tg4so54358485wjb.1 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:54:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7dMoZTn3i1znm28TiIT/kRHCworc8yDbLSS9yk0eCak=; b=nK5O3ZcBGveu7V4A+OB3Ufr1CUe/Upb4AXM2/cvHAJd9KSSAhoMpaAfDD2FPNa+EJe A0sHsg0rH1pdDqfM9ywfWQt6B5HRAGyT4V+fNRNbx2SFUrXkm6PUDJM5dL7ctiAn8QE0 ku6mbbA9dos/L5Nu5A2w17zut9M1w9+/hCcJ2axVmnxKx5/Dt16zgS2n3xKP+sLZOwgS MzqmAI4Y6HYPsx0I1p/dMltK4WlmO+50I2Y+U185g/rzX77wDqg6sJdpj32CqTsi0GAP AkwZ2SkiY+K4iQFSskzhpSe/NKR0+LmZWAbjl2ItV17O/g3XFCBeBkbv/XyXt/ZuQLnz kHuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7dMoZTn3i1znm28TiIT/kRHCworc8yDbLSS9yk0eCak=; b=m4uYY0xnAqlsqFhjfppWA+zHTTTiZcaLO0XabTIosDer6/qflV0SEMMTqSy17YT76u zzMcEajojzS/mG6aIICC+A404CUH09wXaVMyFAis3tIGqd0JQFndMyaZG0RuKAfcKsR0 +AWnmzdd3oXIBHf5DlPgP53GVAOqYFrMMjpb2ruNecqpJOUa2XY1TG6XFrA/bO8KNore PXlkE3jn5KrGClw3gT4Enul4KJNNvpbaRe6s9WLhP33CPjIZhGCcsJCuhw/oE4YiLboG crUAarbWy/HHi454UVlI3lBsvnICiJvC7uDpAIGXblg8uO0QRIG+TyUESG1CQ0kRVjge f70Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC0360kd41PVt4dIuhilSnQKWtl7tuIaLZFMeO+VtRyMZU01zgD6MlHZu8YCPZLTf03z9Q7JqTsN1Vlw28g== X-Received: by 10.194.179.135 with SMTP id dg7mr52936180wjc.219.1481007277455; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:54:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.138.140 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 22:53:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7A6187E5-DEAB-4312-973F-870789E3C58F@gmail.com> References: <1b9982cf-6e48-21a3-b27a-c7dbf91776d6@lojban.org> <7A6187E5-DEAB-4312-973F-870789E3C58F@gmail.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 09:53:57 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.0 X-Spam_score_int: -9 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Lojban account request X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5577040676059800422==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5577040676059800422== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01493c5caec2070542f7e07d --089e01493c5caec2070542f7e07d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-12-06 9:24 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein : > I agree with lojbab, and I don't really understand why this was changed in > the first place away from only something the secrets could do. > For many months almost the only person who confirmed user requests was Gleki although any admin of mw.lojban.org could just open https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Special:RecentChanges and see if any new requests had been sent. Earlier a copy of such emails went to thelogicallanguagegroup@gmail.com to which Riley and a few more people had access. But almost none of them checked that mailing box. People would have to wait for months for their user accounts to be approved so that they can add their lojban-related work to the wiki. Since I'm tired of confirming and confirming user accounts I asked Robin to change notification emaili address to llg-members@lojban.org where not only Riley but any member of LLG can deal with such requests. > .karis. > > On December 5, 2016 7:04:21 PM EST, Bob LeChevalier > wrote: > >> On 12/4/2016 1:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >>> Just one more note. Only requests where people have confirmed their >>> emails should usually be approved. Everybody else is usually a spammer's >>> attempt. >>> >>> 2016-12-04 9:20 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna >> >: >>> >>> So finally we are here. A few hours ago Robin fixed an emailing >>> problem with such messages and now they are going through into >>> llg-members@lojban.org >>> >>> This means any member of LLG can now confirm requests to create user >>> accounts on mw.lojban.org >>> >>> If you don't have permissions to see relevant pages on mw.lojban.org >>> please notify me. >>> >> >> This should not be happening. >> >> And you've presented too little information for the average member to >> understand what they should be doing, if in fact they should be doing >> anything. >> >> The only person who should be adding people to the *members* mailing >> list is Riley (mukti), since only members and those who want to become >> members are supposed to be subscribed. Not merely someone who has >> confirmed their email address (not that most people have the slightest >> idea how they would know if a requestor has confirmed their address, or >> what the "relevant pages of mw.lojban.org" are. >> >> lojbab >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --089e01493c5caec2070542f7e07d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2016-12-06 9:24 GMT+03:00 Karen Stein <comcaresvcs@gmail.com&g= t;:
I agre= e with lojbab, and I don't really understand why this was changed in th= e first place away from only something the secrets could do.

For many months almost the only person who conf= irmed =C2=A0user requests was Gleki although any admin of mw.lojban.org could just open=C2=A0https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Speci= al:RecentChanges and see if any new requests had been sent.

Earlier a copy of such emails went to thelogicallanguagegroup@gmail.com to = which Riley and a few more people had access. But almost none of them check= ed that mailing box.

People would have to wait for= months for their user accounts to be approved so that they can add their l= ojban-related work to the wiki.

Since I'm tire= d of confirming and confirming user accounts I asked Robin to change notifi= cation emaili address to llg-memb= ers@lojban.org where not only Riley but any member of LLG can deal with= such requests.




.karis.

On D= ecember 5, 2016 7:04:21 PM EST, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 12/4/2016 1:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
 Just one more note. Only requests where people ha=
ve confirmed their
 emails should usually be approved. Everybody else is=
 usually a spammer's
 attempt.

 2016-12-04 9:20 GMT+03:00 Gle=
ki Arxokuna <gleki=
.is.my.name@gmail.com
 <mailto:glek=
i.is.my.name@gmail.=
com>>:

     So finally we are here. A few hours ago Robin =
fixed an emailing
     problem with such messages and now they are going=
 through into
     llg-members@lojban.org <mailto:llg-members@lojban.org>

  =
   This means any member of LLG can now confirm requests to create user
=
     accounts on mw.lojb=
an.org <http://mw=
.lojban.org>

     If you don't have permissions to see re=
levant pages on mw.lojba=
n.org
     <ht=
tp://mw.lojban.org> please notify me.

This shoul=
d not be happening.

And you've presented too little information =
for the average member to 
understand what they should be doing, if in f=
act they should be doing 
anything.

The only person who should be=
 adding people to the *members* mailing 
list is Riley (mukti), since on=
ly members and those who want to become 
members are supposed to be subs=
cribed.  Not merely someone who has 
confirmed their email address (not =
that most people have the slightest 
idea how they would know if a reque=
stor has confirmed their address, or 
what the "relevant pages of <=
a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">mw.lojban.org" a=
re.

lojbab




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