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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 05:04:34 +0000
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2017-01-25 18:11 GMT+00:00 And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>:
>
>
> I've had time to watch the first third, and found it delightful and utterly
> sui generis. (I gratefully used the English (United States) subtitles, but
> ideally I'd have liked to see English and Lojban subtitles simultaneously.)
> I haven't heard that much Lojban spoken, but the pronunciation in this video
> is among the clearest I've heard. Most of the actual content goes over my
> head (as does any symbolism associated with such images as the reticulated
> and intermittently blushing Venus of Milo); and some of what little I
> understood seemed strange: some character claims that Lojban is culturally
> biased against Malayo-Polynesian cultures because their languages contain
> glottal stops; yet English contains glottal stops too. I was pleased to see
> a character describe xorxes's ideas as melbi: very apt, and it's gratifying
> to see those ideas getting the appreciation they deserve.
>
> --And.
>


I'm glad to receive your comment on the film, {ki'e sai la and}. Let
me make some comments on your comments.

As for the symbolism, I anticipated that a part of the audience will
be puzzled by the pictures, but I hoped that the sound only is enough
to understand the scenes. Some people enjoy finding the meaning of
pictures, and other people are puzzled by them: I think it is one of
general properties of artworks.

As for the words "culturally biased", the character blamed only the
experimental selma'o, not the official Lojban. No matter whether an
English word contains glottal stops inside, the grammatical structure
of those experimental selma'o in question relies on a property of a
target string of the structure that it does not contain a glottal
stop. Such a structure necessarily excludes some languages from being
a target of it.

By the way, good news: Vimeo finally listed "Lojban" option among subtitles!
Accordingly, I have just fixed the subtitles names: "Lojban" option
shows Lojban dialects as spoken in the film; "Lojban CC" option shows
translation into the official Lojban.

mi'e la guskant

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