Received: from localhost ([::1]:60854 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cWzUT-000368-GF; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:54:29 -0800 Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:36070) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cWzUM-00034A-G6 for llg-members@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:54:27 -0800 Received: by mail-io0-f172.google.com with SMTP id j13so53856807iod.3 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:54:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OiLumSALMi4pJp+ZGrZMhRsQweSrf+i3UwrDbYjsJX8=; b=aGDwEulnFu57aXI2tBK9iXN+fW65pFPYwdkXrqPAaJJFny+cYk+/MWFCVTMDWpqks4 eSJTmOAl90ls+P4+2cVWdFz8wJ03Cn7keqj5L2FL1aFKQQCKJCaqCwDVpB93cC8vHzdP uMKL9LDYMV2cj5+6ofbJj7zwzsiXxeO3Z2f4lEckaiNkZOaelaELGVx4hbz8CkEnDcJM vFB82kp/ipGsF1S9FhJlZMmv92tO1CxzVoU2HDy/kBnngdmlDuB3KVdvTFwOR3j8PXqY EtWZtzka89y3piPZoy2VF3m/RRF6Kw2qR+emfCzrsMS65ESMpw8cDX7HyC3exaFqgh5t SgkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=OiLumSALMi4pJp+ZGrZMhRsQweSrf+i3UwrDbYjsJX8=; b=jmV3PuNdAgKA7rPmMUxYs5dKTahcqvEc9ozjOd0IZEzgCPalssG8j+IL7A/2fHPk/a iumO6n2qi2AbBPSOzvyGhQu69rjedOKPaWkM1tTLS6/G56gwAYn06wWE9JGsh2NTTC2a yJTJJyVbHfYjQRJpwgVhP9g8mruKCNE0IEkSxLL4iH9pt4pOrr1wLz82AIzYj8VaMNLY ho3V4nBO91V1DLziZDqUd7ZG5AASJsFvYg3VAdK/wZZGB1SBf8RtmxaCDLHZnwo8kUkM gMHgjks3jHuuLnlIWYHGpJhWJrilAiywIj5dHXKSGJYUwTFbTqYPZtdaWLn8pd3OV2ce PDYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJL7ZXdoAdG0eMbSgOZ8llS8H07U55eoeGVRBV6MIwaK8pZjG+TM2E/bQY95PtvU8vJngkV/cOV0gQEog== X-Received: by 10.107.15.70 with SMTP id x67mr5835583ioi.103.1485496455552; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:54:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.67.79 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:53:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: guskant Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 05:53:55 +0000 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2016 Annual Meeting: report on a documentary film X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org 2017-01-26 11:33 GMT+00:00 And Rosta : > > > My reasoning, which I'd failed to articulate, is that the cultures that > selma'o is biased against include that arch-hegemon English. So yes there is > a bias, but in a direction both random and opposite to the usual direction > of bias. The objection to that experimental selma'o would as much be that it > is foolish as that it is culturally biased. But I gather that the > documentary is a history of recent lojbanology, and therefore the ideas are > selected for their historical significance, not for any inherent merits. > > Anyway, congratulations, Guskant, for your labour of love. > > --And. > Now I understand what you really meant, {ki'e re mai}. Yes, that scene represents that the character actually feels alienation by the experimental selma'o in question. Moreover, the scene gives motive for the next scene, and also corresponds to the last scene where the character feels again alienation for another reason. The scene is therefore meaningful and necessary for the documentary, but as you know, whether that selma'o is culturally biased is not a subject of the film. mi'e la guskant _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members