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Subject: Re: [Llg-members] 2016 Annual Meeting of the Logical Language Group, Inc. - call to order and roll call X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8248395159984880010==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8248395159984880010== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----CA9MFFI1QF7XF5KVLWH6PIMPUOLX95" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------CA9MFFI1QF7XF5KVLWH6PIMPUOLX95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to remain on the LLG Board for the upcoming year (variable as = that has been)=2E =2Ekaris=2E On February 19, 2017 2:44:09 PM EST, Bob LeChevalier = wrote: >On 2/5/2017 7:13 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> On 1/23/2017 3:06 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >>> Next on the agenda are the minutes from last meeting=2E Our Secretary >>> (mukti) is traveling out of this country for the next week or so, so >I >>> will defer that item until he returns=2E >>> >>> Next we have reports of Officers and committees=2E Again, we will >have to >>> wait for mukti to post the Treasurers report after his return=2E >> >> I had hoped mukti would be back by now, and would have posted the >above, >> but it seems not to be the case=2E In order to move the meeting along, >I >> will suggest that someone move that we defer these items until the >2017 >> meeting=2E > >mukti is back, but has apparently not had time to post these=2E Bu there > >has been no motion to defer them to the next meeting=2E > >I'm not sure if it is legal, but I guess I can rule from the chair to=20 >defer to the next meeting, so as to move the meeting forward=2E I'd=20 >prefer a motion though, and will allow a few days more before I play=20 >dictator=2E > >> One of mukti's suggestions for expediting future meetings, so that >they >> don't last for months, is that whereever possible, motions are >presented >> in advance of the (next) meeting and discussed on various forums >> (including the members list, but also IRC and whatever else people >want >> to try), before they are formally raised at the meeting=2E > >This is being discussed, but I don't intend to hold up the meeting >until=20 >that discussion completes, since it isn't really in order at this point > >in the agenda=2E (But I won't tell people to stop discussing it) > >> I suspect that >> some of the things suggested by the byfy chair in his report would >best >> be discussed in the context of such motions as would support their >> implementation=2E selpa'i, could you prepare such motions, and post >them >> when appropriate=2E (in the current suggestion, I suspect that we can >> have such motions posted as new business, and at the same time tabled >> until the next meeting=2E Or just post them for discussion now while >we >> are still on reports=2E > >Not necessarily applicable until new business=2E > >>> After we get done with all reports, we will call for new members, >and >>> elect a new Board of Directors=2E >> >> It is not clear that all reports that will be made are completed, but >in >> the interests of moving the meeting along, I call for people wishing >to >> become members to speak up now, (along with any proposals by others >for >> people not currently present to become members - we will need to get >> them to state that they wish to be members, and get them added to >this >> mailing list)=2E > >There have been no volunteers or proposals for new members=2E > >> I will allow another week for any additional reports, as well as >motions >> regarding deferring of minutes and reports (which motions can be >> seconded without waiting for me)=2E Then we will act on any motions as >> appropriate and approve those new members=2E > >There are no such motions=2E > >OK=2E I will allow up until end of day next Friday (24 Feb) for any=20 >memberships to be considered prior to the Board=2E > >I will also consider all reports that *have* been made so far to have=20 >been submitted for member acceptance, and they will be considered=20 >accepted without formal motion if there is no objection prior to end of > >day next Friday=2E > >In the absence of minutes or other reports or motions deferring them=20 >until the next meeting by end of day next Friday, I will rule from the=20 >chair to do so as stated above=2E > >>Then Board elections, > >Nominations and/or volunteers for the new Board are now in order=2E The= =20 >existing Board can be proposed as a slate if someone would so move, but > >I would still like each Board member to post and state that they want >to=20 >remain on the Board=2E The existing Board (informally named) are: >lojbab,=20 >Karen, Curtis, gleki, selpa'i, mukti, and Ali=2E > >I would like all such nominations and volunteering to also all be >posted=20 >by end of day Friday=2E Then when I post next weekend after that=20 >deadline, we can have the Board election, and then perhaps quickly wrap > >up the meeting=2E > >And my usual: >If for whatever reason I have not posted again *by end of day Monday >(27=20 >Feb)*, >I ask the VP to assume the chair and attempt to move the >meeting onward, in line with the above and the Bylaw-directed agenda=2E > >lojbab > > >_______________________________________________ >Llg-members mailing list >Llg-members@lojban=2Eorg >http://mail=2Elojban=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/llg-members ------CA9MFFI1QF7XF5KVLWH6PIMPUOLX95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to remain on the LLG Board for the up= coming year (variable as that has been)=2E

=2Ekaris=2E

On February 19, 2017 2:44:09= PM EST, Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban=2Eorg> wrote:
On 2/5/2017 7:13 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
 On 1/23/2017 3:06 PM, Bob Le=
Chevalier wrote:
 Nex=
t on the agenda are the minutes from last meeting=2E  Our Secretary
 (=
mukti) is traveling out of this country for the next week or so, so I
=
 will defer that item until he returns=2E

 Next we have reports =
of Officers and committees=2E  Again, we will have to
 wait for mukti =
to post the Treasurers report after his return=2E

 =
I had hoped mukti would be back by now, and would have posted the above, but it seems not to be the case=2E  In order to move the meeting along,=
 I
 will suggest that someone move that we defer these items until the=
 2017
 meeting=2E

mukti is back, but has appar= ently not had time to post these=2E Bu there
has been no motion to d= efer them to the next meeting=2E

I'm not sure if it is legal, bu= t I guess I can rule from the chair to
defer to the next meeting, so = as to move the meeting forward=2E I'd
prefer a motion though, and wi= ll allow a few days more before I play
dictator=2E

One of mukti's suggestions for e= xpediting future meetings, so that they
don't last for months, is tha= t whereever possible, motions are presented
in advance of the (next) = meeting and discussed on various forums
(including the members list, = but also IRC and whatever else people want
to try), before they are f= ormally raised at the meeting=2E

This is being disc= ussed, but I don't intend to hold up the meeting until
that discussio= n completes, since it isn't really in order at this point
in the agen= da=2E (But I won't tell people to stop discussing it)

I suspect that
some of the th= ings suggested by the byfy chair in his report would best
be discusse= d in the context of such motions as would support their
implementatio= n=2E selpa'i, could you prepare such motions, and post them
when app= ropriate=2E (in the current suggestion, I suspect that we can
have s= uch motions posted as new business, and at the same time tabled
until= the next meeting=2E Or just post them for discussion now while we
a= re still on reports=2E

Not necessarily applicable u= ntil new business=2E

After we get done w= ith all reports, we will call for new members, and
elect a new Board = of Directors=2E

It is not clear that all reports t= hat will be made are completed, but in
the interests of moving the me= eting along, I call for people wishing to
become members to speak up = now, (along with any proposals by others for
people not currently pre= sent to become members - we will need to get
them to state that they = wish to be members, and get them added to this
mailing list)=2E
=

There have been no volunteers or proposals for new membe= rs=2E

I will a= llow another week for any additional reports, as well as motions
rega= rding deferring of minutes and reports (which motions can be
seconded= without waiting for me)=2E Then we will act on any motions as
appro= priate and approve those new members=2E

There are n= o such motions=2E

OK=2E I will allow up until end of day next Fr= iday (24 Feb) for any
memberships to be considered prior to the Board= =2E

I will also consider all reports that *have* been made so fa= r to have
been submitted for member acceptance, and they will be cons= idered
accepted without formal motion if there is no objection prior = to end of
day next Friday=2E

In the absence of minutes or = other reports or motions deferring them
until the next meeting by end= of day next Friday, I will rule from the
chair to do so as stated ab= ove=2E

Then Boa= rd elections,

Nominations and/or volunteers for the= new Board are now in order=2E The
existing Board can be proposed as= a slate if someone would so move, but
I would still like each Board = member to post and state that they want to
remain on the Board=2E Th= e existing Board (informally named) are: lojbab,
Karen, Curtis, gleki= , selpa'i, mukti, and Ali=2E

I would like all such nominations a= nd volunteering to also all be posted
by end of day Friday=2E Then w= hen I post next weekend after that
deadline, we can have the Board el= ection, and then perhaps quickly wrap
up the meeting=2E

An= d my usual:
If for whatever reason I have not posted again *by end of = day Monday (27
Feb)*,
I ask the VP to assume the chair and attem= pt to move the
meeting onward, in line with the above and the Bylaw-di= rected agenda=2E

lojbab



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