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([2600:1003:b849:7aa2:d11f:c02b:483:9cd4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t13sm10946178qtc.22.2017.06.13.20.31.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 23:31:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 To: llg-members@lojban.org From: Karen Stein Message-ID: <8867137B-D6FF-4A51-A865-D40F0047584E@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Ask for translative permission #256 X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6381169578959097175==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6381169578959097175== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----CAOT72MR9H47P0WTC0S24CJIPYSKZ7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------CAOT72MR9H47P0WTC0S24CJIPYSKZ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know the legal answer to this, and would like it clarified here and= to the board if anyone knows the answer, or whom to ask at least=2E One issue that saying they do not need approval or even the notice include= d raises is what is and is not official=2E It becomes even more important i= f/when a new version such as this becomes part of the online CLL offerings = as they are generally considered to be official and therefore approved=2E =2Ekaris=2E (Karen Stein) President, LLG On June 13, 2017 7:40:20 PM EDT, guskant wrote= : >I replied to the issue as follows: > >--- my reply from here --- >As written in Chapter 1 Section 8, you don't need permission for >translating the CLL=2E The part >"[=2E=2E=2E] this permission notice may be stated in a translation that h= as >been approved by the Logical Language Group, rather than in English=2E" >states only an optional permission about the permission notice itself >in Chapter 1 Section 8=2E Moreover, that permission notice _may_ (not >"must") be written in any language other than English, and that part >_may_ be approved by the Logical Language Group=2E >--- end of my reply --- > >If the translator requires approval of the translated permission >notice by the LLG, we can check and approve the translated permission >notice on this mailing list=2E That part is not very long, and I have >skill of verifying texts in Chinese or some other languages=2E > >mi'e la guskant > > >2017-06-13 6:30 GMT+00:00 Gleki Arxokuna : >> https://github=2Ecom/lojban/cll/issues/256 >> >> How do we even approve their translation once it's complete >(partially >> complete)? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban=2Eorg >> http://mail=2Elojban=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> > >_______________________________________________ >Llg-members mailing list >Llg-members@lojban=2Eorg >http://mail=2Elojban=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/llg-members ------CAOT72MR9H47P0WTC0S24CJIPYSKZ7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know the legal answer to this, and wou= ld like it clarified here and to the board if anyone knows the answer, or w= hom to ask at least=2E

One issue that saying they do not need approval or even the notice include= d raises is what is and is not official=2E It becomes even more important i= f/when a new version such as this becomes part of the online CLL offerings = as they are generally considered to be official and therefore approved=2E
=2Ekaris=2E (Karen Stein)
President, LLG

On June 13, 2017 7:40:20 = PM EDT, guskant <gusni=2Ekantu@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:
I replied to the issue as follows:

--- my= reply from here ---
As written in Chapter 1 Section 8, you don't need= permission for
translating the CLL=2E The part
"[=2E=2E=2E]= this permission notice may be stated in a translation that has
been a= pproved by the Logical Language Group, rather than in English=2E"
states only an optional permission about the permission notice itself
in Chapter 1 Section 8=2E Moreover, that permission notice _may_ (not
"must") be written in any language other than English, and that = part
_may_ be approved by the Logical Language Group=2E
--- end o= f my reply ---

If the translator requires approval of the transl= ated permission
notice by the LLG, we can check and approve the transl= ated permission
notice on this mailing list=2E That part is not very l= ong, and I have
skill of verifying texts in Chinese or some other lang= uages=2E

mi'e la guskant


2017-06-13 6:30 GMT+00= :00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki=2Eis= =2Emy=2Ename@gmail=2Ecom>:
https:= //github=2Ecom/lojban/cll/issues/256

How do we even approve= their translation once it's complete (partially
complete)?




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