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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:19:29 -0400
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On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:19 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

Among languages that name days of the week for numbers, there is
> disagreement
> as to which day is named for which number.


Is there?  I only know of languages where Monday = First-day.  English does
not use terms of this form, but the word _weekend_ represents an originally
English concept, and it implies that the week begins on Monday.


> In Russian, there is even internal
> disagreement: Tuesday is 2, Thursday is 4, Friday is 5, but Wednesday is
> middle.


As you say, it's common for a few names to come from other sources than the
prevailing system, and Russian is not special in this respect.


> since the elements have gismu but the planets and gods do not.
>

I think that matters only if day names are brivla , but not if they are
*names*, as I believe they should be.

-- 
John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        cowan@ccil.org
Any sufficiently-complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad-hoc,
informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.
        --Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming (rules 1-9 are unknown)

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as to which day is named for which number.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
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0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
In Russian, there is even internal<br>
disagreement: Tuesday is 2, Thursday is 4, Friday is 5, but Wednesday is<br=
>
middle.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>As you say, it&#39;s common for a f=
ew names to come from other sources than the prevailing system, and Russian=
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"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">since the elements have gismu but the planets=
 and gods do not. <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that matters=
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hey should be.</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0</div><div><div>John Cowan =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan=
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mailto:cowan@ccil.org">cowan@ccil.org</a></div><div>Any sufficiently-compli=
cated C or Fortran program contains an ad-hoc,</div><div>informally-specifi=
ed bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.</div><div>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --Greenspun&#39;s Tenth Rule of Programming (rules 1-9=
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