Received: from localhost ([::1]:43544 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dvLpn-0000ji-4R; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:09:27 -0700 Received: from mail-wm0-f45.google.com ([74.125.82.45]:45877) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dvLpG-0000h0-VS for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:08:56 -0700 Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id q124so2884065wmb.0 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:08:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=I9EYss0RTJtl3dxfI2FlZltrkUagiY1EQz/mg8Nro00=; b=UNjquu62qAL2lJgurTI0yKtFFRAmV6Qndh5dL0gCXi+xoHAU/NvTUCdvi1QnINKvDT SXaeBnBohEy69votH/5FMt53ppRJ5U6jUnaiH1IayUViUrra8QVkJcr1giuKw78Cwg/M sOGzayW0N0qT67ICfdC+HyfjgXmds0KRTpRSQ9UGZ/7a2d5DNHTcq4o91kDKgw4kBcTx aixBFoOFTC3hNzJ//RxvUpqFQ6Hz7leqMjNeeXl57izHUymOu5y2nQlA5RmlQ0bjQ6d8 i4bEGg8Dk8aeO53MzVpQuRNUyRXTL+kSYHOH+N6YVeFwrJgU+CGOLG4UPKetZbQPdXmo 0FOQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=I9EYss0RTJtl3dxfI2FlZltrkUagiY1EQz/mg8Nro00=; b=o2iyUSGEZbltY8bgc+umS9qHKcKuh2AMtvyi+hx8PD+JX9EdeeibQ1u2WLcu7eRyMc qY3LkFYf/TmhGJJhXAk66+jpkXLLI306+EsHLO4M7sgoKS6QWa+kVXBqdbwkuY5jq1BL kKGHARin5ZI+Ow6vA9LXzDZZfI6FtGJvo8saFbBg/gbtEM/HhB0wz37dEz2sZdRj9kEt bEXhY3FX5Om7LyyPE59COpOg74a5z2Tg2R0XppiSHI+F7xZpwgAugypw1lnMp1hTTn4M YoiX3tyNnSvJKZoSB9OdN9/cHtYxjEqojyXKMgug9rEWEmQj3bx8NXxB+Jnzsgiz1zlu yssQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhsoZdbkElbrdXypP6DF6h9yI7C57VwmE0+7H2bTAdQS7mxheka EIsTWqpChZc50btV+HDndBCyS2p4ZpAYkCZRtQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDzMDvPGum4RJv6OsB7nlfC9h6NFVL+umiz5vkxI4FOCDbcTkovPi+CLXlK/fOtl6kVwxkW4UeWDI7EGEXdWL0= X-Received: by 10.80.144.131 with SMTP id c3mr4371036eda.120.1506078527843; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:08:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.163.137 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:08:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:08:07 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] September X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8922035232270074826==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============8922035232270074826== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045c1c04a7f1b40559c53bac" --f403045c1c04a7f1b40559c53bac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-09-22 13:54 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > I apologize for not seeing this email earlier. I am not sure why the main > material (text) we already have on lojban.org is not a fine framework for > any website we might have. Instead of new text I believe what needs to be > done is for one of more people to go through it and put together a proposal > of what should be considered official and then we vote on it. > Well, if your concern are only technical issues (which are mine too) then lojban.org alone is not a fine framework. Having a static site with an official text (whether or not we already have such text) will allow us to redirect users to it when mw.lojban.org wiki is down or even when Robin's servers are completely down. However, one needs to write out such official texts since a static site won't have the same capabilities as an editable wiki and it won't have all the texts the wiki has. So if la guskant has a proposal for a place for official texts then I support this idea since it in alignment with my idea of having a backup site with static content. However, I have no idea what should be official, probably, some stuff that is most important for people interested in Lojban. > . karis. > > > On Sep 8, 2017 01:26, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > > 1. The meeting of LLG members is not ongoing. Where will it start? > > 2017-09-08 1:22 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > >> coi >> >> In response to Gleki's email about the website there is someone already >> working on this >> > > on this? On texts you mean? > If on design it's not the same. > > >> and I will follow up with him and check on the status. I think we should >> look over what he has and what Guskant, and anyone else currently working >> on this and willing to provide a detailed description at minimum, thinks >> it should have before choosing deciding. I know we've discussed the need >> to identify what is official from what is not for people using the site. >> Beyond this we had a range of ideas of how best this could be accomplished >> and to what degree we should. >> >> >> Am I correct that by static website Gleki means a website that is a >> basically fixed document. I believe that the basic structure of the website >> is one decision the board should make and I neither have memories of us >> having done so nor read in the log of such a decision. >> > > I'm only interested in texts that are supposecd to be official. The > structure of the website is of less importance while there are no texts. > > >> >> .karis. >> >> >> >> On Sep 1, 2017 07:14, "Gleki Arxokuna" >> wrote: >> >> September, still nothing. >> >> Anyway I support the idea by la guskant to make a static version of an >> official LLG website. >> Obviously, there needs to be someone to write the text. >> is la guskant willing to write something? >> >> As for hosting I suggest for anything (preferably free of charge, github >> pages ... whatever). >> As for CMS I suggest for anything simple. Github hosts many static >> website generators. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --f403045c1c04a7f1b40559c53bac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-09-22 13:54 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <= ;comcaresvcs@gma= il.com>:
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I apologize for not seeing this email =C2=A0earlier. I am not sure why= the main material (text) we already have on lojban.org is not a fine framework for any website we= might have. Instead of new text I believe what needs to be done is for one= of more people to go through it and put together a proposal of what should= be considered official and then we vote on it.=C2=A0

Well, if your concern are only technical issues (whi= ch are mine too) then lojban.org alone is= not a fine framework. Having a static site with an official text (whether = or not we already have such text) will allow us to redirect users to it whe= n mw.lojban.org wiki is down or even w= hen Robin's servers are completely down.

Howev= er, one needs to write out such official texts since a static site won'= t have the same capabilities as an editable wiki and it won't have all = the texts the wiki has.

So if la guskant has a pro= posal for a place for official texts then I support this idea since it in a= lignment with my idea of having a backup site with static content. However,= I have no idea what should be official, probably, some stuff that is most = important for people interested in Lojban.








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. karis.=C2=A0


On Sep 8, 2017= 01:26, "Gleki Arxokuna" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
1. The meeting of LLG members is not ongoing. = Where will it start?

20= 17-09-08 1:22 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com<= /a>>:
coi

In response to Gleki&#= 39;s email about the website there is someone already working on this
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on this? On texts you mean?
If on design it's not the same.
=C2=A0
and I will follow up with him and = check on the status. I think we should look over what he has and what Guska= nt, =C2=A0and anyone else currently working on this and willing to provide = a detailed description at minimum, =C2=A0thinks it should have before choos= ing deciding.=C2=A0I know we've = discussed the need to identify what is official from what is not for people= using the site. Beyond this we had a range of ideas of how best this could= be accomplished and to what degree we should.=C2=A0


Am I correct that by static website= Gleki means a website that is a basically fixed document. I believe that t= he basic structure of the website is one decision the board should make and= I neither have memories of us having done so nor read in the log of such a= decision.

I'm only i= nterested in texts that are supposecd to be official. The structure of the = website is of less importance while there are no texts.
=C2=A0

=
.karis.



Septe= mber, still nothing.

Anyway I support the idea by la gus= kant to make a static version of an official LLG website.
Obvious= ly, there needs to be someone to write the text.
is la guskant wi= lling to write something?

As for hosting I suggest= for anything (preferably free of charge, github pages ... whatever).
=
As for CMS I suggest for anything simple. Github hosts many static web= site generators.


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