Received: from localhost ([::1]:35158 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5Z6g-0002ve-JB; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:21:06 -0700 Received: from mail-ua0-f180.google.com ([209.85.217.180]:51168) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5Z69-0002ta-MW for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:20:34 -0700 Received: by mail-ua0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v27so8547754uav.7 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:20:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wJCQzHgCAQ9deWHK+J99Ca3jLYHJlP+hNwGuezHl1vc=; b=t/c009cBGQV2wZsCyAx58pVXLoQtxpgBKZl2Dqq5tdvX6SO+H4t1GRU3VmDqfptBb2 B6as6VMEchQ/32GYdzRzf3AzLSgx+4iD5ap4nUZCDpCjpDAqiFOH0bGshsfcdOExuXw3 jF3I5Yvw5GVi52F888v3fL2vUm9dk+/JCbGyB9RQjiDkLwiByv6jTqe7/J1AAuUP/ILI 7DlnxnSfy3QP3Hch6IXft/PXriIKehG9LYxMv4UxgWVtz0ylZHPQ2P4bDd7ax0LxfKjB IMPqFvOdKeDnp4tKPH+QNfmMcTtvk4qkgOce9eudrb6bzNHGxlFTXRuZe3Jx6iNjn+N6 DDjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wJCQzHgCAQ9deWHK+J99Ca3jLYHJlP+hNwGuezHl1vc=; b=mD6DcK1lAqA+lo/c/FylvD9AiQd+SoxTJQd64XzKbhCkCPKdEvlczJ/OM1c8DJOYcQ a9w2eaqD44ra7Uz19ut+TKgpb8orYpZlKZDFky5JdY77/UP3jiUI9PQXfewTxujt+dCR J1io+W+W9i7Rm46KLoS3av1nI4zKtLyoqKWGgCD+LurcJ0vUPWzOaVX4l00TctpDmhBy 1fmpIC5ejaFxRdZlyE2JG4xfUsfTjET6wI3h4rL81vftTrX0WyOF3dQj27v8NgwSHCGq yXxvKVvifKBNYxPF2HC+4YsWD5YraExQ2GY0gaj2E0TUpuDsuhgsi4uq8d7OWC0KTOwo Y89g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXF/us2nuxMqx1N7RGu7zU9Wsye4DLafAH9rOCHp/0I7HmnGbF5 MY9KQyVgyS9dcxrvg2auPoIZccRBWr+UTafwuRU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RlXUWEOVBbKKdkP3il+ZOW7hLAFivikjHrR8y4PYhOT93FFZKfNd4bwjKTWpgcwbM17Zf8/j9+frmudq/ekJc= X-Received: by 10.159.41.65 with SMTP id t59mr3744706uat.99.1508512826575; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:20:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.18.75 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.18.75 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:20:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1570787.TGIMFNVgpt@caracal> From: Creative Care Services Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:20:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Meeting Notice X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3345035542797136008==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============3345035542797136008== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114b6d062ad0d2055bfc0378" --001a114b6d062ad0d2055bfc0378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to my understanding of the bylaws this must be voted on if 15 days notice was not hibernation, thus the current item on the floor. As to who could announce the meeting, Riley said his understanding was that either the president or vibe president could announce the meeting so I went with that. If this is incorrect I appreciate the information. Lojbab or Nora do you have any information pertaining to this? There is also my request for people to prepare summaries of any online discussions of the topics so far raised. I hope this is being done for future sections of the meeting. Officer's reports are next so I hope these are also being prepared. . karis. On Oct 20, 2017 07:59, "selpahi" wrote: > I don't understand this motion. > > Notice was given (in form of an announcement) by President Karen Stein on > the 19th of September 2017, stating that the meeting would begin on the > 30th of September of the same year (i.e., eleven days later). If I > understand correctly, this goes against the bylaws, which demand that > notice be given at least fifteen days before the meeting, and that said > notice be given by the Secretary/Treasurer. However, the meeting did not > begin on the 30th of September, and instead was convened on the 5th of > October, which is more than fifteen days after the notice. > > Since a majority of the members are present, whether or not notice was > given is irrelevant. > > The only relevant thing is that no changes to the bylaws can be made > during this meeting because no mention of bylaw changes was in the notice= . > This could be ignored if all members were present, but they are not. > > ~~~mi'e la selpa'i > > > > > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr=C3=BCft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --001a114b6d062ad0d2055bfc0378 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
According to my understanding of the bylaws this must be = voted on if 15 days notice was not hibernation, thus the current item on th= e floor. As to who could announce the meeting, Riley said his understanding= was that either the president or vibe president could announce the meeting= so I went with that. If this is incorrect I appreciate the information.=C2= =A0
Lojbab or Nora do you have any information pertaining = to this?=C2=A0

There is al= so my request for people to prepare summaries of any online discussions of = the topics so far raised. I hope this is being done for future sections of = the meeting. Officer's reports are next so I hope these are also being = prepared.

. karis.=C2=A0=

On Oct 20, 2017 07:59, "selpahi" <selpahi@selpahi.de> wrote:
I don't understand this motion.

Notice was given (in form of an announcement) by President Karen Stein on t= he 19th of September 2017, stating that the meeting would begin on the 30th= of September of the same year (i.e., eleven days later). If I understand c= orrectly, this goes against the bylaws, which demand that notice be given a= t least fifteen days before the meeting, and that said notice be given by t= he Secretary/Treasurer. However, the meeting did not begin on the 30th of S= eptember, and instead was convened on the 5th of October, which is more tha= n fifteen days after the notice.

Since a majority of the members are present, whether or not notice was give= n is irrelevant.

The only relevant thing is that no changes to the bylaws can be made during= this meeting because no mention of bylaw changes was in the notice. This c= ould be ignored if all members were present, but they are not.

~~~mi'e la selpa'i





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