Received: from localhost ([::1]:35288 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5Z9a-00036B-TC; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:24:06 -0700 Received: from mail-vk0-f51.google.com ([209.85.213.51]:54348) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5Z94-00034K-AY for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:23:35 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id n70so7542091vkf.11 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:23:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9xbgGv76ixq3Z8TELTmWlL/QghE4VLZZMq69Un7v9N4=; b=Bbv9obA1k+p8pbXCPtaqmoCmRF98TBPnZPy5HgUSUMXXAfdbV7ViRlXrodkb89UkqQ vg7r6PFv3DI3Pw29u+oE+boFCrJuiCKXpVSIEUzG8XgDdc+SIQ4m48168nn5WwCj4Q2v NUmUFAmTqz3sluz2e8mTBAd5cpSrtSkmS2VybrGwiBQeUwSQrAjikxifCufo7/onscjn XVwmVM5gH7NgVit3cwXE5X2aHU8Wqf0plAX7xdX3EkWvNo+X2oOm/E+II99E2262Or9M urd+NjUAv7ExGir9ygeP2Yr/PQueZ3c1veSCAqnuzZ2iniLpeQUKkXHqJ3IllZGbaMWc jfrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9xbgGv76ixq3Z8TELTmWlL/QghE4VLZZMq69Un7v9N4=; b=S8UtGH2MPY2qBeIUFzHhYQw4cjCk6q9L8CM/3nWMy58Q4L9ixm9w9iYa1y0e7kvqZd hKXDVvwidxg0grAFbPlhf0sE1jZPjAFYD6BVyLhcbXog7UJbXL/HRn4wosJNE0TMQ+bT Ufe3MKQmkIyRprspEUSe5+qt+LxviqRkWQtpfbeNKqwkvT7Hj366IAdS+Qr3eSCKPawI gYjRAiguLWy000h55hJ8Bg0PfQ+hST/l51Est9qddGhYWm2IcuoRqu9ppnjtZH/Ov4YK jy1VUgdW0Q6zjZ5uU/K2H7Hw0cpslNmuCjtZ6Eid/7U0dlJNMT41abfDtjrfuZleAiAB g1vw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXblrwhuxGt8ACoWa97S/9UhaFfTR4IocwzHBQMlDD9sJCZxcEn SX1aY0cZRcdMjHm+vkRSEeTs2H2gt8NINZP6InE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SeIk1BV2kygMWOFQ5IgZqxq863RJM4L4BBuMZgF9n1mX++f6/wmlOe3L4o7dWyo46Ymub4IyW9CCuzfnDD+E8= X-Received: by 10.31.110.7 with SMTP id j7mr3570075vkc.123.1508513007830; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.18.75 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.18.75 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1570787.TGIMFNVgpt@caracal> From: Creative Care Services Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Meeting Notice X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7882387998518765461==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============7882387998518765461== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c14ae6af88be8055bfc0d78" --94eb2c14ae6af88be8055bfc0d78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I realized after sending that autocorrect has struck again. ... that 15 days notice... On Oct 20, 2017 11:20, "Creative Care Services" wrote: According to my understanding of the bylaws this must be voted on if 15 days notice was not hibernation, thus the current item on the floor. As to who could announce the meeting, Riley said his understanding was that either the president or vibe president could announce the meeting so I went with that. If this is incorrect I appreciate the information. Lojbab or Nora do you have any information pertaining to this? There is also my request for people to prepare summaries of any online discussions of the topics so far raised. I hope this is being done for future sections of the meeting. Officer's reports are next so I hope these are also being prepared. . karis. On Oct 20, 2017 07:59, "selpahi" wrote: > I don't understand this motion. > > Notice was given (in form of an announcement) by President Karen Stein on > the 19th of September 2017, stating that the meeting would begin on the > 30th of September of the same year (i.e., eleven days later). If I > understand correctly, this goes against the bylaws, which demand that > notice be given at least fifteen days before the meeting, and that said > notice be given by the Secretary/Treasurer. However, the meeting did not > begin on the 30th of September, and instead was convened on the 5th of > October, which is more than fifteen days after the notice. > > Since a majority of the members are present, whether or not notice was > given is irrelevant. > > The only relevant thing is that no changes to the bylaws can be made > during this meeting because no mention of bylaw changes was in the notice= . > This could be ignored if all members were present, but they are not. > > ~~~mi'e la selpa'i > > > > > > --- > Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr=C3=BCft. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c14ae6af88be8055bfc0d78 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, I realized after sending that autocorrect has= struck again.

... that 15 day= s notice...=C2=A0


On Oct 20, 2017 11:20, "Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:<= br type=3D"attribution">
Accordin= g to my understanding of the bylaws this must be voted on if 15 days notice= was not hibernation, thus the current item on the floor. As to who could a= nnounce the meeting, Riley said his understanding was that either the presi= dent or vibe president could announce the meeting so I went with that. If t= his is incorrect I appreciate the information.=C2=A0
Lojba= b or Nora do you have any information pertaining to this?=C2=A0

There is also my request for people t= o prepare summaries of any online discussions of the topics so far raised. = I hope this is being done for future sections of the meeting. Officer's= reports are next so I hope these are also being prepared.

. karis.=C2=A0

On Oct 20, 2017 07:59, "selpahi" <selpahi@selpahi.de> wrote:
I don't understand this mot= ion.

Notice was given (in form of an announcement) by President Karen Stein on t= he 19th of September 2017, stating that the meeting would begin on the 30th= of September of the same year (i.e., eleven days later). If I understand c= orrectly, this goes against the bylaws, which demand that notice be given a= t least fifteen days before the meeting, and that said notice be given by t= he Secretary/Treasurer. However, the meeting did not begin on the 30th of S= eptember, and instead was convened on the 5th of October, which is more tha= n fifteen days after the notice.

Since a majority of the members are present, whether or not notice was give= n is irrelevant.

The only relevant thing is that no changes to the bylaws can be made during= this meeting because no mention of bylaw changes was in the notice. This c= ould be ignored if all members were present, but they are not.

~~~mi'e la selpa'i





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