Received: from localhost ([::1]:42662 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eFy1L-0004aY-RD; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:58:35 -0800 Received: from mail-wm0-f66.google.com ([74.125.82.66]:39594) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eFy0p-0004XG-BU for llg-members@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:58:04 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f66.google.com with SMTP id l8so10141764wmg.4 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:58:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VMg63y3+fGf+NFZjbqH07SDRqUeGN714f3kfp/cOKF4=; b=N09etimGw4h9hE0gvHw5S8vQqcWrdB1ayqROc60nwyPJbsYtjXfIB+wNkEV1RJMmj4 SDQmOGhHcmr4Hg0i34/W5mPmh9ZfxYsU72hStOflfD/OVCwfqiuDzc+MG5kqUMH5ObXG t0DJWOi9F9nRXfEoYKtcfU4I3MTYr9FWAP7dSBIUIanI9iWHJaSKb9cPjsgxvgEAESLC 07SIZQWKE0k3fs4SWArC+OKqj8Uadmi1jnqIZ1B07NDksQRe1OasxNXASvvp36SOsZL8 jApy6131HBVywFJxIuY6cD8FceV4mpHGnQiuLxNg+xkFpJYAtM0xjJ6EH4oSPfL0Z58i IqyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=VMg63y3+fGf+NFZjbqH07SDRqUeGN714f3kfp/cOKF4=; b=FXXDR6a3E+guz8QnZogVa5hQ/gYVlBha1uqEKQN7SrnCYc5qf2m5hRSmKZL8kuqgtI OeP0mHnOtD5+SALwVlEDWQAOl5AIr1e1dEemB4wVPa+xur4SmE+d402+KqNfbh7/j52F FGB9B7xrL+pSuYRH33EX+d5/hJ2z7NJH0CvBgkiqK7u7ixCdeNDC+UR0439nVS32DxhR 0PrpQMKhlb3dtIOiuP00BCj6IygftRc/J+rJj98mHamqWP8LblzmCWGJwKfW7YhN8gbB bM67Bqj0LkQqKhRMb19l10fQJE8ozqcqbSYPpIhnZfYMYKMxpjAwZmEk0HTrid78ShvH IdoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6tI+tBTe/W7VEFghfjAGiVjWSuY68gJGhj06EErzQ2TAGz8K8B ZGf9Yx7JfqSHGM18E2pMKRkn+GkvMfpFCSzf5A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMa4bhvWXuzwt7dgm4OmGrRFvTD4Bm+QaKu06Jdh9JGOyYlszjhT/hSztlQE85TOCOtlUK+iGNTjjqk8y8iKXIw= X-Received: by 10.80.214.136 with SMTP id r8mr10902882edi.17.1510991876268; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:57:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.173.219 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:57:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0a1fc3cb-02ae-9fdd-acbe-058e034f573a@lojban.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:57:55 +0300 Message-ID: To: "llg-members@lojban.org" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.5 X-Spam_score_int: -14 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Old Business X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5422787365154592256==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============5422787365154592256== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045dbc5c0b2f24055e3d36c5" --f403045dbc5c0b2f24055e3d36c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Em s=C3=A1bado, 18 de novembro de 2017, Curtis Franks escreveu: > Whoever is currently on the Board should remain so unless they explicitly > announce otherwise for themselves (per individual). If necessary, I make > this a formal proposal or second any similar proposal which provides extr= a > details. > > If necessary, I hereby vote in favor of them when the time comes. > I hereby do the same. > > On Nov 16, 2017 22:37, "Creative Care Services" > wrote: > >> Lojbab's latest post, which follows, makes it clear that several steps >> in the meeting went by too fast for everyone to see and respond to them. >> Here's a list of what has already been raised. >> >> * Because mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the reading of >> minutes from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them or >> someone else offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us. >> >> * We then heard what reports were available (again putting mukti's on >> hold). >> >> * A request was made by the president for anyone interested in joining >> the voting membership or anyone interested in leaving the membership to >> state such a desire. No one did over the next several days. >> >> I recently announced mistakenly that the next section is for old >> business, however lojbab has reminded me that election of the board is t= he >> next order of business. >> >> In order to accommodate the need to have our Board elected before the en= d >> of this month, I hereby open the floor for statements of nomination (for >> oneself or another) of new board members, and statements of continued >> interest from those now serving on the board. Transfer from the 2017 boa= rd >> to the 2018 board will, as lojbab stated, take place at the conclusion o= f >> this membership meeting. These will be accepted through 12:00 midnight G= MT >> on =C5=83ovember 21, 2017. >> >> Since others may not have realized that all these sections of the meetin= g >> have already been opened to discussion, I will happily back up to make >> sure that all members and other participants in this meeting feel that t= hey >> have been heard. If any of you would like more discussion on any of hese >> topics, please announce this in an email to this list before 12:00 midni= ght >> GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave some time for any >> discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on the Board for 2018= . >> >> . karis. >> >> On Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" > > wrote: >> >> On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> 2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services >> >> comcaresvcs@gmail.com >>> >>: >>> >>> >>> If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. We aren't >>> going to discuss this further until it's brought up as new business= , >>> as I know Gleki plans to do >>> >>> First, an official statement that the membership tensing as it was >>> with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list all th= e >>> names at this point in the meeting writeup. >>> >>> No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed so we >>> proceed >>> >>> What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please state >>> these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's necessary. I >>> expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. >>> >> >> >> My opinion (which can be overridden by the chair) >>> >> >> After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (wh= o >> should have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti >> added anyone). People can nominate someone not present, and if accepted= by >> the membership would be invited to join the meeting. >> >> >> Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after >> this meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers). >> >> Old and then New business comes after the Board election. Old business >> consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they invol= ved >> motions that were passed. Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in the >> language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the >> website, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill >> rating system are the 4 things I know would be old business. You need t= o >> look at old minutes to see if there are other topics. Unfortunately, >> without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which >> should have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that). >> >> New business is anything else. gleki's previous postings would still be >> new business if they never made it to the status of an approved motion i= n a >> prior meeting. >> >> Lojbab >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> --f403045dbc5c0b2f24055e3d36c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Em s=C3=A1bado, 18 de novembro de 2017, Curtis Franks <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> esc= reveu:
Whoever is curre= ntly on the Board should remain so unless they explicitly announce otherwis= e for themselves (per individual). If necessary, I make this a formal propo= sal or second any similar proposal which provides extra details.

If necessary, I hereby vote in favor of = them when the time comes.

I her= eby do the same.
=C2=A0

On Nov 16, 2017 22:37, "Creative Care Services" <comcaresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
=
=C2=A0Lojbab's latest = post, which follows,=C2=A0 makes it clear that several steps in the meeting= went by too fast for everyone to see and respond to them. Here's a lis= t of what has already been raised.=C2=A0

* Because mukti is unable to participate regularly I put the rea= ding of minutes from the last meeting aside until he is able to read them o= r someone else offers to summarize the meeting notes for the rest of us.=C2= =A0

* We then heard what= reports were available (again putting mukti's on hold).=C2=A0

* A request was made by the pres= ident for anyone interested in joining the voting membership or anyone inte= rested in leaving the membership to state such a desire. No one did over th= e next several days.=C2=A0

I recently announced mistakenly that the next section is for old busines= s, however lojbab has reminded me that election of the board is the next or= der of business.

In orde= r to accommodate the need to have our Board elected before the end of this = month, I hereby open the floor for statements of nomination (for oneself or= another) of new board members, and statements of continued interest from t= hose now serving on the board. Transfer from the 2017 board to the 2018 boa= rd will, as lojbab stated, take place at the conclusion of this membership = meeting. These will be accepted through 12:00 midnight GMT on =C5=83ovember= 21, 2017.

Since others = may not have realized that all these sections of the meeting have already b= een opened to discussion,=C2=A0I wil= l happily back up to make sure that all members and other participants in t= his meeting feel that they have been heard. If any of you would like more d= iscussion on any of hese topics, please announce this in an email to this l= ist before 12:00 midnight GMT the end of November 19, 2017. I want to leave= some time for any discussion requested to occur before voting occurs on th= e Board for 2018.=C2=A0

. karis.= =C2=A0

On Nov 15, 2017 19:52, "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
On 11/14/2017 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:


2017-11-14 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com <mailto:comcaresv= cs@gmail.com>>:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If this meeting was paralyzed we'd still be taking roll. = We aren't
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 going to discuss this further until it's brought up as ne= w business,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 as I know Gleki plans to do

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 First, an official statement that the membership tensing as i= t was
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 with the exception of And Rosta. I leave it to Riley to list = all the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 names at this point in the meeting writeup.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 No one has suggested any new members or asked to be removed s= o we
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 proceed

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 What old business do the rest of you want addressed? Please s= tate
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 these topics and explain a bit where you believe it's nec= essary. I
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 expect this to be complete by 12:00 noon GMT on 11/18/2017. <= /div>


My opinion (w= hich can be overridden by the chair)

After committee reports, the next item is a call for any new members (who s= hould have been enrolled on the list earlier, but I don't know if mukti= added anyone).=C2=A0 People can nominate someone not present, and if accep= ted by the membership would be invited to join the meeting.


Then we elect the new Board of Directors which will take office after this = meeting ends (and then the new Board will elect new officers).

Old and then New business comes after the Board election.=C2=A0 Old busines= s consists of topics discussed at prior meetings, especially if they involv= ed motions that were passed.=C2=A0 Anything to do with byfy, LLG role in th= e language OTHER THAN appointing the BYFY chair, and management of the webs= ite, and Pierre's committee-of-one effort to create a testing/skill rat= ing system are the 4 things I know would be old business.=C2=A0 You need to= look at old minutes to see if there are other topics.=C2=A0 Unfortunately,= without mukti, there are no minutes for last meeting to approve (which sho= uld have been earlier in the meeting, but there is no help for that).

New business is anything else.=C2=A0 gleki's previous postings would st= ill be new business if they never made it to the status of an approved moti= on in a prior meeting.

Lojbab


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