Received: from localhost ([::1]:52664 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eQjpN-0005KC-LV; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 17:02:45 -0800 Received: from bezitopo.org ([45.55.162.231]:40338 helo=marozi.bezitopo.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eQjos-0005JI-3D for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 17:02:14 -0800 Received: from bezitopo.org (cpe-174-109-123-133.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.123.133]) by marozi.bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9767C5FABA for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 20:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726341D5B6 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 20:02:09 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: llg-members@lojban.org Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 20:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: <1663389.WBx79aILec@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/5.1.3 (Linux/4.4.0-98-generic; KDE/5.18.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Unfinished Business X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:25:47 PM EST Creative Care Services wrote: > I believe both are unfinished business since they were raised at the last > meeting and postponed. The first mentioned is BPFK, so let's discuss that > first. I open the floor. Personally I would also rather actually have the > discussions rather than pushing them off yet again in the interest of spe= ed > as well. The BPFK was tasked with rewriting cmavo definitions. It's never been clear= to = me what was wrong with (most of) the previous definitions or what the new = definitions should be like. There are at least two things a definition shou= ld = do: *If someone comes across a word, he should be able to figure out what it = means. *If someone is composing a sentence, he should be able to figure out the = correct word to use in it. The cmavo "bo" is one of the cmavo with the least clear definitions. It has= at = least three uses, so it should have at least three definitions: *Combine two words or phrases with higher priority. *Combine "i" with a preposition to make a sentence conjunction. *Turn a scalar operator, which qualifies a selbri, into a sumti qualifier. It seems to me that there should be a way of making a sentence conjunction = out = of a preposition without making that conjunction have higher priority: la .alis. benji lo notci la .bab. ije la .bab. spuda .ibabo la .carlys. jor= ne = le girzu I'm the shepherd of BIhI/GAhO (or the bifigafos (some animal in a Spanish = tonguetwister, probably related to the Portuguese mafagafo), wherever the = bifigafos went), and I think that it should be possible to have BIhI = (particularly "mi'i") with only one GAhO, but I don't know how to hack PEG = (or = YACC) to make the change. Also "mi'i" seems appropriate for the slash in CI= DR. Pierre -- = When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. _______________________________________________ Llg-members mailing list Llg-members@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members