Received: from localhost ([::1]:56560 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eT2gT-0000bS-Nj; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 01:35:05 -0800 Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]:37083) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eT2fx-0000aS-EX for llg-members@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 01:34:34 -0800 Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id f140so28284080wmd.2 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 01:34:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=U0HfW1hYVkjICImAqW8qvrSdRZgFo1ki0HkLKWpvbJQ=; b=HAdgPoMzmTCjLk7t6IdRePvN0GJRPVm0ajcp4OJiDBpxOsw0vunR291tPdI1bZyRyH 4f+WslujWRdjEsLfmJYhcEoR3fO+uXsasC7iOXfVekrSg45KpGpQAccuzHQm3dNKmwzK GBOwU3xcDeMhIVlyoRPoOGvz2hGtfaTnYd7Kiw5/Up/4VxUt9mby3jfiRBhj2tz2jmxz rX7ZKKD1k3uOGFLJ3j6yrqLvJL8qep+M3R9J6U26+NG8gs+VHPSVcZjzcLGgPv44+oGL dzE/BrOSF3rXu5v5UkTS99tknGfqy4dFE8rpbrryLZxw5RwIR/6aV/el3mYF+ZAwwgKN G3JQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=U0HfW1hYVkjICImAqW8qvrSdRZgFo1ki0HkLKWpvbJQ=; b=Oj0oVazSsxECMcttm4oL1Jbkr3+DKh0VbTg/W0AKZ+mT1peYuHIHIUhRvtUHRpaEfr pmPFZhn7ufQvrjEZINRXcm8MKhraPOZsZ7ielehKApU2WO65YHZlxUPWhSzTM6KA2OXK FRSwEfSCnIrnWo3YNtNG/o1k8o3zYMOsTu3mhgnCtfLan391KMDSCRARiDZLldxa91F2 SzgwgB3tSoefhGOnDjDP3aOYszlmbDmMyJO05sN8zBczPtCcI8Qrar+be4jVzsz5m+NM 2aUXTqboKcw+ovD+lF52cOCPb1ZhdQGU7Y9n+3PqSQQR7VlKnLxV/zu1EUDZOjoYpZJA LdqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLWzEGzLCoCRT1vFF5I3yU4y6WtNhdR4VMwxRztvRrJdNeL3LW2 9l3a7tGDy66gRDmEfSDbZ3FSjIoX3gfuZyBGXA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotHZoW1ODwgG+gIvlYpTKJ3EeooBhEUtQPbTwcVDMgsC1fB9HV0j/CEvImqGvQTh9nQDwOQvbOuGu5RiUD+P2Q= X-Received: by 10.80.158.196 with SMTP id a62mr22441123edf.307.1514108066591; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 01:34:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.173.219 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 01:33:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7074953.2veMK8YGUJ@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 12:33:46 +0300 Message-ID: To: llg-members@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Subject: Re: [Llg-members] Unfinished Business: BPFK X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6585347302355385768==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============6585347302355385768== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c19b97675fbbb056112c149" --94eb2c19b97675fbbb056112c149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-12-24 12:21 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > > > On Dec 24, 2017 03:44, "Gleki Arxokuna" > wrote: > > > > 2017-12-24 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services : > >> >> >> On Dec 24, 2017 00:39, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: >> >> On Friday, December 22, 2017 1:11:33 PM EST Curtis Franks wrote: >> > Should we try to increase publicity? >> > >> > I bet that universities would be particularly open to >> > 'marketing'/organizing clubs. >> >> I know nothing about doing publicity, but I think it would be a good >> idea. I >> enjoy jbonunsla, but the turnout in August 2015 was disappointing. Getting >> more new people interested in Lojban, some of whom would like to gather, >> would >> be good. >> >> Pierre >> >> >> I also enjoy gatherings and believe they help the community be somewhat >> more cohesive, Pierre, and would love there being more as well the >> opportunity to attend. Having various sorts of official as well as simply >> recognized ones would make publicity easier as a flyer or online equivalent >> could be placed out to bring people in and give them a chance to discuss >> lojban in person. This helps the newly aware become interested and decide >> to pursue further knowledge about and contact with lojban. >> >> Some such events have happened at science fiction conferences, and is in >> fact how I first became interested. Colleges /universities have also >> had presentations, but none of this, as far as I know, has been organized >> by LLG, but rather people have come to us asking if they could or asking >> for suggestions. >> >> I am happy to create several boilerplate pdf files for this purpose, >> though I apologize that I can only do them in English. What ideas do any of >> you have for how to get materials to the best people on campuses? >> >> There has also been some talk of subsidies for people representing LLG >> and the lojban community at events such as conventions. >> > > Where nobody speaks fluent Lojban while people who do speak fluent Lojban > don't have such possibility? sorry bu I oppose. > > > Excuse me. Are you saying that you or other fluent speakers would like the > opportunity to attend a lojban gathering, yet cannot, attend and present at > a science fiction convention, yet cannot, or present before university > groups, yet cannot? Are you objecting to possible subsidies? What is > stopping lojban speakers from many parts of the world from any of these? It > was impossible to understand which part of what I said you oppose. > The only conventions with LLG members that come to my mind are Logfests. If a fluent speaker wants to present Lojban at some event then (s)he should have more chances on getting subsidies. > > As for finalizing materials like the dictionary that might make sense. > > >> Specifics of who, how much, and when haven't been finalized. >> >> . karis. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Llg-members mailing list >> Llg-members@lojban.org >> http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > > --94eb2c19b97675fbbb056112c149 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-12-24 12:21 GMT+03:00 Creative Care Services <= ;comcaresvcs@gma= il.com>:
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On Dec 24, 2017 03:44, "Gleki Arxokuna" <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.= com> wrote:


2017-12-24 10:39 GMT+03:00 Creative Ca= re Services <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>:

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On Dec 24, 2017 0= 0:39, "Pierre Abbat" <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Friday, December 22, 2017 1:11:33 PM EST Cu= rtis Franks wrote:
> Should we try to increase publicity?
>
> I bet that universities would be particularly open to
> 'marketing'/organizing clubs.

I know nothing about doing publicity, but I think it would be a good = idea. I
enjoy jbonunsla, but the turnout in August 2015 was disappointing. Getting<= br> more new people interested in Lojban, some of whom would like to gather, wo= uld
be good.

Pierre

I also enjoy gatherings and believe they help the= community be somewhat more cohesive, Pierre, and would love there being mo= re as well the opportunity to attend. Having various sorts of official as w= ell as=C2=A0 simply recognized ones would make publicity easier as a flyer = or online equivalent could be placed out to bring people in and give them a= chance to discuss lojban in person. This helps the newly aware become inte= rested and decide to pursue further knowledge about and contact with lojban= .=C2=A0

Some such events= have happened at science fiction conferences, and is in fact how I first b= ecame interested.=C2=A0=C2=A0College= s /universities have also had presentations, but none of this, as far as I = know,=C2=A0 has been organized by LLG, but rather people have come to us as= king if they could or asking for suggestions.=C2=A0

I am happy to create several boilerplate= pdf files for this purpose, though I apologize that I can only do them in = English. What ideas do any of you have for how to get materials to the best= people on campuses?

There has also been some talk of subsidies for people representing LLG and= the lojban community at events such as conventions.=C2=A0

Where nobody speaks fluent Lojban while p= eople who do speak fluent Lojban don't have such possibility? sorry bu = I oppose.

Excuse me. Are you saying that yo= u or other fluent speakers would like the opportunity to attend a lojban ga= thering, yet cannot, attend and present at a science fiction convention, ye= t cannot, or present before university groups, yet cannot? Are you objectin= g to possible subsidies? What is stopping lojban speakers from many parts o= f the world from any of these? It was impossible to understand which part o= f what I said you oppose.

The o= nly conventions with LLG members that come to my mind are Logfests.
If a fluent speaker wants to present Lojban at some event then (s)he sho= uld have more chances on getting subsidies.

=C2=A0=

<= div>As for finalizing materials like the dictionary that might make sense.<= /div>
=C2=A0
Specifics of who, how much, and when haven= 9;t been finalized.=C2=A0

. karis.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

<= /div>


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