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X-BeenThere: llg-members@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: llg-members@lojban.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4623132331450064825==" Errors-To: llg-members-bounces@lojban.org --===============4623132331450064825== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c03caf040a22505615d5d6d" --94eb2c03caf040a22505615d5d6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you, Robin, for addressing this problem. .karis. On Dec 27, 2017 18:46, "Robin Lee Powell" wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 03:33:30PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:42:45PM +0100, selpahi wrote: > > > It appears as though not all messages are received by all the > > > members. For example, I did not receive the two most recent mails > > > (one by guskant, one by karis). Ilmen and durka didn't get them > > > either. > > > > > > The only reason I know they were sent is that they are listed > > > here: > > > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/private/llg-members/ > 2017-December/date.html > > > > > > There were also some earlier messages I did not receive. > > > > > > Does anyone know why this might be? > > > > If some people but not all got them, this is typically due to spam > > blocking. > > > > If we're talking about the one that begins: > > > > > This message is only a reply to Lojbab. I think further discussion > > > about the death of the LLG should be restrained in this thread. If you > > > continue discussing that, please post as a new thread. > > > > then I can confirm that it was received ... Ah, I see. > > > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > jerome.des@laposte.net>: relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > phma@bezitopo.org>: relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > lojbab@cox.net>: relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT : > relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT : > relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > tene@allalone.org>: relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > tommylee@whitlock.org>: relay not permitted > > 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [::1]:51352 > I=[::1]:25 F= rejected RCPT < > cowan@ccil.org>: relay not permitted > > > > We appear to be refusing mail from ourselves. > > > > -___- > > > > No idea what changed to start that happening. > > > > I *think* I've fixed it. > > This appears to have been happening randomly. For example, since > the 24th, the address gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com has had 24 mail > delivery attempts from the llg-members list, of which only 4 have > been rejected. > > I'm now actively monitoring the issue in one of my windows; if it > doesn't recur in the next few days I'll consider it fixed. > > _______________________________________________ > Llg-members mailing list > Llg-members@lojban.org > http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-members > --94eb2c03caf040a22505615d5d6d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you, Robin, for addressing this problem.=C2=A0

.karis.

On Dec 27, 2017 18:46, "Rob= in Lee Powell" <rlpo= well@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 03:33:30PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:42:45PM +0100, selpahi wrote:
> > It appears as though not all messages are received by all the
> > members. For example, I did not receive the two most recent mails=
> > (one by guskant, one by karis). Ilmen and durka didn't get th= em
> > either.
> >
> > The only reason I know they were sent is that they are listed
> > here:
> > http://mail.lojb= an.org/mailman/private/llg-members/2017-December/date.html > >
> > There were also some earlier messages I did not receive.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this might be?
>
> If some people but not all got them, this is typically due to spam
> blocking.
>
> If we're talking about the one that begins:
>
> > This message is only a reply to Lojbab. I think further discussio= n
> > about the death of the LLG should be restrained in this thread. I= f you
> > continue discussing that, please post as a new thread.
>
> then I can confirm that it was received ... Ah, I see.
>
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <jerome.des@laposte.net>: relay n= ot permitted
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <phma@bezitopo.org>: relay not permitt= ed
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <lojbab@cox.net>: relay not permitted
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <noras@cox.net>: relay not permitted
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <arj@nvg.org>: relay not permitted
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <tene@allalone.org>: relay not permitt= ed
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <tommylee@whitlock.org>: relay not= permitted
> 2017-12-26 23:06:01 [24254] H=3D(stodi.digitalkingdom.org) [= ::1]:51352 I=3D[::1]:25 F=3D<llg-members-bounces@lojban.org> rejected RCPT <cowan@ccil.org>: relay not permitted
>
> We appear to be refusing mail from ourselves.
>
> -___-
>
> No idea what changed to start that happening.
>
> I *think* I've fixed it.

This appears to have been happening randomly.=C2=A0 For example, since
the 24th, the address gleki.i= s.my.name@gmail.com has had 24 mail
delivery attempts from the llg-members list, of which only 4 have
been rejected.

I'm now actively monitoring the issue in one of my windows; if it
doesn't recur in the next few days I'll consider it fixed.

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Llg-members@lojban.org
http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/llg-= members
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